So i dated this girl, i send her expensive flowers to her work which she always wanted, took her on a candle lit dinner on our first date which i paid for then we went for a walk along the beach, took her on a romantic holiday, got her meaningfull gifts she always wanted, and after doing all that for her, guess what? i got dumped!!!


so did i do too much or is all this romantic stuff like you see in the movies just fantasy and a load of bollox? cus in the real world i dont think girls appreicaite it at all. the next girl i date i just dont think i will buy her anything or be romantic at all cus i tried it and it failed, ended up getting dumped two days before christmas!!!

Dude, it's not about what you buy them or where you take them. It's about how you behave!

Here's how I see romantic gestures. If you light candles because you think they'll like it, you're doing it wrong. You light the candles because you like it and you think it makes you don fucking juan. You shouldn't be focusing on how they feel about it, you should focus on how it makes you feel about it. Some dudes just do this shit to go through the motions because they have the notion that its automatically romantic. She doesn't want to fuck roses and candles, she wants to fuck you so you need to make sure that you are comfortable with it and you use it to your advantage. Its to enhance your own sexual frame, and if it doesn't do that, then you should find something else that does. Doesn't mean you should always be hard and fast, but there's no amount of roses than can make you look like a man.

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Nope, girls love romance. You were just way too much on the comfort side and not enough fun/thrill on the first date. The first date should be inexpensive. It must be FUN, it must be a THRILL. It must be SEXUAL and at times you should make an ass out of yourself in front of her in public like you just don't care.

Charisma, bro.

Take her out to the mall, get sexual by dragging her into Victoria's Secret. Make an ass out of yourself by trying a bra on. You won't come across as trying too hard as long as YOU feel like you're having fun and not just doing it because you have to do it. On the first date I go so crazy while walking with the girl that I grab random people walking by us and saying something like, "Yo this girl is beautiful, she's beautiful, look at THAT face!" Girl blushes and goes, "No NO, don't listen to him! He's crazy!"

Amuse yourself.

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Do girls like romance? Are rabbits happy? Is Pizza good? How sexy is a lawyer? It depends on the indicidual.

In general girls like romance but it has to come from the right person at the right moment. Girls may love to have a romantic backrub from someone who they love because this deepens the connection but they may hate it from a stranger at the bar. Would you yourself wanna get a romantic kiss from a Hobo in a dark backstreet, or would you prefer it from a hot girl? The choice is obvious, it depends on the person and the relation you have to it.

Problem is that guys try to use romance as a way to court someone when it is better used to deepen an already existing relationship. If a guy buys a girl dinner it means that he either is gonna hope for something in return or that he isnt having dinner with a lot of girls. Nobody can afford to buy dinner for girls in fancy restaurants all the time. So romance in order to get someone to feel attraction for you is not good, it is try hard and it is not gonna work.

Make sure that you are already a potential partner before going all romantic on her.

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bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

And let's not jump to the other extreme either (for those of you who only see black and white). You can spend a few bucks to buy an ice cream for her or something. You're the one who took her out on the date anyways. That's what I do. Shit, give me 6 bucks and I'll give that girl a memorable date. Doesn't even have to be food, man. What works well is buying two cheap necklaces or some accessory. You pick one out and have her pick one out that she likes. Then swap em. $3 each. After the date is over, she even has something from you to think about, it reminds her of THAT fun time.

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Yes, you are right! Of course you can buy her an icecream, nothing wrong with that. On the other hand, thats what I do for friends too. Im just saying, save the champagne and the violins for when you are well on your way in.

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bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Precisely. In my book, that would only happen after I had sex with the girl. Romance is linked to affection. In order to get a girl, you must suppress affection and let loose the sexual beast within you.

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The thing is i do love romance myself. i didnt do these romantic things just cus i thought she would like it, i liked it myself, im almost obsessed with romance, i always think of crazy romantic things i could do for a girl it makes me feel good when i know i made her happy!!! i thinks its my timing that is all wrong. the worst thing i did was just before xmas after she dumped me i still wanted her to have her xmas present i got her which cost £100. even after she treated me like shit, but she said she couldnt accept it and i had to send it back.

she never bought me anything not one gift ever!! she says she loves romance and want to be treated like a princess, but when i tried to i still failed lol

You live and you learn. Next time you won't waste money buying her shit. I did the same thing back in the day, but I did it for a different reason. I had just broken up with her and I thought it was only fair to buy her a birthday gift since she had bought me one when we were together. She thought it was me trying to win her back. In hindsight, I probably would have been better off not buying her shit. Also in hindsight, I'm glad I didn't play my cards right or I'd still be with her fugly ass.

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