I might be wrong... but hear me out for a moment...

There's two categories of woman for me.. the ones I would really like to date and those that I half fancy and just want to fuck..

The ones I just want to fuck, I am very casual and almost cocky with. These girls are probably a 5-7 out of 10. They make contact with me/I see them somewhere I am just like 'so when you coming round to mine'?... they react with a type of shock and disappointment/anger but seem to try even harder for me to 'take them out' for a drink or something to that effect. No matter how rude I am , I can always get back in there...

Then there is the 8-10 's who are obviously more in demand and my tactic is to get them out for a drink. That seems a lot harder to do sometimes I just find it so difficult.

So.. my point is.. if you just make a girl think you want sex,, does that then get her to try and feel she has to DHV and prove she is worth more?
Does it not work for HB8's and above etc..?

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check this out dude its great shit. #4 about sexual state, framing and tension.

chiefs-guide-to-outer-game-vt75887.html

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Good Spot. Yeah thats very interesting..

But I am still curios to know, does actually showing that you are more interested in sex actually make a girl want you more as opposed to the drink thing.

I understand that talking/thinking sex can arouse them too, but I want to know if there is another element to it whereby girls then think (sort of) that you must be a good catch/in demand to only care about having sex with them. Maybe it kind of tells them -'you cant play me and I quite unobtainable, I only want a shag'...

any more thoughts from anyone?

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My opinion on this is those 5's and 6's you speak of, the ones that try hard knowing you are only interested in a bang, are girls with low self esteem. Most likely they will fuck you that night or on first date to win you over. Sex to women is a bargaining tool.

A girl with a self worth will most likely not be interested if you are strickly out to fuck them. Especially really good looking women. They can have sex literally whenever they feel like and will put them off. You don't wanna be seen as a sleazy player but instead a ladies man. This type of action will prob offend 70% of women and if it does create some attraction, will get a very low chance of the girl agreeing to the date.

BUT if you studied PU even a little bit, you know you are basically showing them you are a high quality human being, that's the goal atleast. By not showing too much interest, being self confident and being an awesome dude you will make her want that drink.

You are half right with the sex thing in theory. I'm assuming projecting "the only want sex" frame you speak of will naturally make girls think you are a high demand person that has many women/relationships in your life. But this tactic can be seen as slimey and the end goal can be accomplished by following the basic ideas if PU instead.

So no, I don't think it will work. Of course there are chances if you approach girls like this that you will get them. Normally these are girl's you wont wanna get into a relationship with anyways if that what you are looking for.

Kinda help?

Hi Smoothop

thanks for the reply..


Yes it does help and I see what you mean about the sleazy thing and self worth of an HB8 etc.. however.. my thoughts are that you could always start off very casual/sex driven and when the girl shows that she is pissed off - you apologise and offer to take her for a drink to say sorry. Her aim (as is any girls) is to be taken seriously by you and that offer of a drink is a step up now from 'I only see you for sex'... abit like a negotiation.

Not say you are wrong and this is right.. just posing the question.

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