So basically i'm going on this trip 2 hrs away for 1 night with a bunch of people (everyone gets shitfaced and fucks their date at the end of the night pretty much). A lot of us just got dates that were friends with and don't plan on doing anything with. I have reservations with like 5-10 other couples. I've known my date for a little but we've never really had an extensive conversation and its a mutual feeling were both going together just to go with everyone else (no pressure).

How should i tell her i don't plan on paying for her meal? She's not my girlfriend or anything, nor do we really feel attraction towards each other. I'm probably gonna be the only one at the table that does this too... Should i tell her before we actually go that way she knows?

I don't know where to begin....So I'll start with your name......goldenghetto......


Answer me these two questions

What makes you think she expects you to pay?

Why are you not kind enough to offer to pay for the young ladies meal that has so nicely agreed to lable herself as your date for the night??

( I'm assumeing as you are going with a mutual friend you couldn't get a date that you want to F%$# @ the end of the night, to go with you)

Haha, well if you invited her on this trip you need to pay for food dude. It's beyond pick up, it's manners.

If you pay for it, she'll think she owes you something and she might get nervous about you expecting a return on you 'investment'. Anways, most girls these days don't expect the man to pay for everything.

No dude, you need to pay.

You asked her out. It's not really even a date since you said there's no real attraction going on. I've done this before with girl friends. Them going with you is essentially a service, since no one wants to be a loser and go by themselves.

SmoothOp is right, this is basic manners.

Is she going with you on this 2 hour trip.. or is she from the place where it's been held?

I ended up not only not paying for a girl I had lunch with recently (who has a boyfriend), but having her pay for both of us after playfully joking around with the fact I'd made a 2 hour trip to see her..

[quote="goldenghetto"]So basically i'm going on this trip 2 hrs away for 1 night with a bunch of people (everyone gets shitfaced and fucks their date at the end of the night pretty much). A lot of us just got dates that were friends with and don't plan on doing anything with. I have reservations with like 5-10 other couples. I've known my date for a little but we've never really had an extensive conversation and its a mutual feeling were both going together just to go with everyone else (no pressure).

How should i tell her i don't plan on paying for her meal? She's not my girlfriend or anything, nor do we really feel attraction towards each other. I'm probably gonna be the only one at the table that does this too... Should i tell her before we actually go that way she knows?[/quote


You are not obligated to pay nor should you have to unless you want to.. just try to avoid a situation were it would make you feel and look bad if you do not pay... For example when i am at the clubs and i am with a girl and we are dancing and making out and she wants a drink, i walk with her to the bar and stay 5 steps behind dancing and not looking at her while she get her own drink... now if i was with her at the bar it would look bad and awkward if i did not pay..2.- have a talk with her, once i picked up a milf at a club she took me to a hotel, and i told her look i was not planning to come here i did not bring my credit card, and she paid..

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Go to the cashier first, make sure she is behind you. Once done ordering, say "Oh, and this is seperate" loud enough for all 3 of you to hear it lmao!

But man, if this is after you 2 fucked... hit up the dollar menu. And swallow that receipt when he hands it to you.

say, hey, you're not my girlfriend or anything, nor do we really feel attraction towards each other. I don't plan on paying for your meal. I know i'm probably the only one at this table that does this too...

then tell her before or after you go, depending on what you feel like

you also most likely do not have to say the above unless at the end of the night, she says, SOO... YOU GOT THIS?

jesus, some of these responses.

if i invite a girl somewhere, i pay.

doesn't matter if we are dating or not,

she is "my guest" at that point.

anytime i invite ANYONE to do ANYTHING with me,

such as go to lunch...

i pay.

what i mean is, anytime i invite someone to accompany me (as a guest) to a place where it is likely there is going to be some cost (such as lunch, dinner, a ticket, whatever), i pay, because they are my guest.

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for the guys who said they are going to pay because you invited her ?
how many times you got fucked-over in relationships ?
how many times did you had sex with those woman ?
how many times didn't you realized you got ripped off ?
mack .. how many times you got fucked over in relationships ?

look there is nothing wrong with buying a woman a cup of coffee or one beer .. it only cost you a dollar... i give a dollar to a homeless person ( no not to suck my dick lol).
IM not going to pay her dinner .. im not going to pay her cinema ticket.. in fact i don't pay anything untill she sucks my dick...even if she sucked my dick 3 times im still in doubt reviewing if i should pay some of her shit.

FACT IS Woman are never satisfied .. the more you pay and do for her to more she will cheat and backstab you - she will become bored with your niceguy attitude.. you do so much shit for her. She think you care so much about her you won't leave her - and that is when the cheating starts BECAUSE they believe you won't leave them , you have invested too much.

and now you are fucked over and turned into a provider guy...

everyime you pay ridicilious amounts on dates you are shooting yourself in the foot... don't make big promises either because once you told a girl to hang out for free she won't give a shit... it's just like when some idiot hands you a useless flyer on the streets .. you throw it away... i wipe my ass with toiletpaper and i don't collect it in a box just to look at it.

everytime you guys are doing things for woman that woman aren't doing for you im going to punch oyu in the face... if that isn't possible im going to pray that lighting strikes not only you but also her...if you do everything for free you might as well cut your dick off and hand it to her - you give everything away for free so ... hey ..

this monday i got a text message from a girl on college , she asked me for one dollar ( probably to pay her parking ticket) i didn't respond and i still haven't...you know why ? im not going to walk out of class wasting my own time for one fucking dollar - if she asked for 10 or 20 it would be different...If she wants that dollar so bad she should walk into my class and ask me for it... im not going TO YOUR PLACE TO GIVE YOU FUCKING MONEY...

if you want something come and get it ...

if you want me to pay your meal .. come and suck my dick

guys think fucking woman owns them shit if they pay her stuff .. this isn't true.. DID you ever got a ''suck for free '' coupon ? did she have signed a contract to give you something in return ? don't fucking trust people you recently met and don't fucking trust her because she's having a vagina...

what ?

DO you really buy her flowers because you are nice ?
do you buy your best friend flowers ?
all vagina ....

all woman are emotional and they lack structure .. it's terrible... why would you trust someon who lacks structure ? if you were a bank would you let someone who lacks structure and clearity rent a amount of money from you ? NO ... if the answer is no but you give money to woman you ARE A TERRIBLE BUSINESS PERSON.

don't worry .. I HATE BUSINESS PEOPLE AND I HATE BANKERS .. BANKSTERS .. i hope they all may be struck by lightning on the golfcourse.
it's a mothafucking date .. you didn't signed a contract to pay anything.. she must beh appy she's getting some attention - she can hang out with a guy like me - and if it turns out to be a shitty date because

a . i totally blew it
b. she blew it

i at least didn't wasted my money on her.
money has nothing to do with manners .. you can hold the door open for her , you can choose a place for her to seat.

i had a period where i didn't had ANY money and i still got dates / got laid with hot woman... i told them straight on i wasn't going to pay for them. I SAID NO and they respected me for it...the dates i paid for weren't going ANYWHERE.. it's not like i needed to pay i was just being nice because i had alot or enough money.

i want to be friends with alot of you guys because i can leech you dry ...

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o yeah ... i spew all my tea over the screen when i read some shitty replies ...

you guys owe me a new LCD screen

fuckers...

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That's me.

Maybe once or twice. Money wise? Never

Many times.

Never. Except when that hooker stole my money and ran!

I agree with a lot of shit you say, but some of it is extreme and it sounds like you one crazy ass ni$$a.

I'm not talking about paying a girls rent or buying her a $60 meal on a first date. I'm talking paying for a facking coffee or beer when I invite them to join me. Would you invite friends over for a party and say "bring your own fucking chips and dip bitches"? I hope not. I have been with girls that demand we split bills or insist on always paying for me! In the end it's always a fair deal in my experiences.

I have never sat in my car after a date and thought, "fuck man... I wish I didn't spend that $8.85 on that mini put..., she didn't even blow me.."

Main point - Do not try to buy a women.

Spending $10 on some girl I will most likely see a few times is perfectly fine. Unless you are a student, then bring mac n cheese on your trip and find a microwave!

If you give me sex 3+ times,... you have a deal mister.

im just being real here..

there is a huge difference between friends and woman... both are a different race... it's like comparing apples with peaches.
if she isn't a friend ..and it didn't go anywhere ? damn .. i would... not only she wasted my time but she also made me pay.. money AND time are both a currency...

and guys say ''well yeah you didn't waste your time.. you improved your pickup skills blablabla'' ... after 6 fucking years of pickup studying myself and psychology i know how woman work... not getting laid to me means a waste of time and money - woman only learn me shit i already know.... look if you'haven't spend alot of time with woman GREAT go and LEARN .. but if you have multiple years of dating experience under your belt it's different.

it depends on the type of date .. if a woman is going to meet me at my home then YEAH i would spend 10 or 20 $ on some groceries just to cook a good dinner. She already is going to my place so that means she is interested and she probably wants to fuck... why in earth would i take her to a restaurant if im not sure if it would go anywhere ? first date .. go for a cup of coffee or cook dinner at your home... you don't need to date a woman 3 times in order to fuck her, you don't need 3 dates to find out if she REALLY likes you.

I don't have the time and $ to invest in many woman...if i would spent 10 $ in each woman it would be 100$ each week...
1. i do not date alot of woman anymore, my time is expensive
2. and im very selective.. im not dating some chick that isn't attracted..if she isn't attracted im not going to convince her with game or money.

all you guys are talking about money but you should realize that your time on this planet is expensive.. you cannot date all woman .. you cannot date woman who aren't interested or attracted either...you need to know what you want and be selective.

time doesn't matter and money does ?.... stop that shit .. you cannot fucking think that way IT ENDS TODAY .. you have 60 fucking years to live or maybe even less... you don't want to spent your majority of your time , money and emotional energy in dates / people that aren't going anywhere.

time is freaking money and if you aren't getting what you want you are wasting time.. TIME = MONEY.. interchangable currency.

go for fucking win-win deals
i would say something like this to only one person ... and that person is you , because to me it seems like you have alot of $
i didn't know you had tits and a vagina....im amazed ! you bring your own fucking chips and beer

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