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Location: Concord, CA | Photo Opener
Me: Hi! How about a photo?
Her: Yes, ok.
Me: Of me and my friend!
Her: Uhhh, ok (She thought I'd want a pic of her cause she thinks she's
SOO HOT)
Me: Just press this button....
She takes the pic
I look at the pic and tell her: You made that very well, so we take
another one of you and me, ok?
Alternative, tell me what u think...
After she has taken the pic and u hav viewed it,u say
"u did a really gud job, i dont do this very often, but becuase u took such a gud picture, im going to let u have one of me"
she: starts laffing
You: go into a routine
tell me wat u think guys
The ring routine
The Ring Routine
A routine for older chicks. The kind of women you can be blunt with,
god bless them.
You'll walk near her and give heavy EC. Then look at her hands.
"Hi. [laugh] I was just looking for something." The HB will say,
"What?" And you'll say, "A ring." Now nine out of ten older HBs are
smart to know what KIND of ring, but you have to pace and lead, so if
she doesn't ask what kind, you can say, "The kind of ring that should
never come off. Even in the shower. The kind of ring that you would be
naked without." Already you've got two images of her naked running
around in both your minds. Beautiful. Oh,
BTW, obviously this isn't the kind of routine you should run if the
woman turns out to have a wedding ring, otherwise you are messing yourself up
by reminding her that she should be faithful.
Prison Break Routine (ceus)
"Can you keep a secret? I'm trying to organize a prison
break. We have to first get out of this bar, then the city,
and then the country. Are you in or you out? "
If she plays along and says she is in (ioi), you can qualify
her a bit, like hmm i dont know, how do i know i can trust
you and you dont tell the guards *pointing at the barman
Big bang routine
Eyez: omg…almost forgot to tell you…last night… the weirdest thing happened… I was lying in my bed, trying to {study for exam, read a book…etc}...when I suddenly heard a girls voice shouting out loud in anger: “I am done...this is it…you promised you {and she called all the names in book}…and started crying” and saying stuff I couldn’t hear clearly…I was like…wth?! They were from the apartment above me I could tell…. Now no reading/studying for the exam…then I hear a guy’s voice: “c’mon…it was nothing…I swear….It was an innocent kiss!!”…I was like uh uh! And yea I could hear him clearly….some people are really inconsiderate. I mean it was like 1 AM in the morning for God’s Sake! Then I heard something crashing like a glass or a bottle or something…obviously somebody was really angry….I decided to call the police...so I grabbed my phone……..then everything was back to normal….absolute silence….nothing…at this point I forgot about studying/reading….it wasn’t looking good…ya know…so I said ok thank God…they are done…they’re probably back to normal…somebody left the apartment or something…and then they burst into argument again…I am like shit!!!! This shit is gunna last for a while…..I grabbed the phone and they were silent again….I said ok…this time they are really done and I am gunna “Finally” have some peace…..so I am back to my bed grabbed my book…lil’ upset….started reading a few sentences………when I hear a weird noise and sounds from the same apartment above me….ya know…I mean like a bed’s noise..ya know…and some loud sounds of excitement and screaming and laughing…..I was like wth is going on here??!! Damn!
Revolving door routine
Step 1: "Hey guys..."
Step 2: Hook question: "What's a man supposed to do for a woman at a revolving door?"
The hook question is succinct, easily understood and pertains to something that will likely get your target to answer. It's 'GIRL RELEVANT.' It's one sentence, no more.
Step 3: Pause for a response. "Get the door for her."
Step 4: Calibrate and address their response, either with PLAYFUL busting, which I usually do with a mini cold read: "You know, you have a profound grasp of the obvious," (again _PLAYFULLY_,) or with a general statement: "Um, duh."
Step 5: General riffing off their response, Cocky & Playful banter, teasing, etc.
Step 6: Post-opener story: This is a story that's meant to follow and explain your opening question while building interest and attraction by being engaging. It should be tight, succinct and build to a punch line.
For example: "So get this. The other day I'm walking into Neiman's and I see the reflection of this woman walking behind me. So I get to the revolving door and I thought I'd push it to get it started moving, and then let her go by. But then I panicked and got in the same little stall as her. So then I sorta reached around her and kinda dry-humped her into the store. (I'll act this out w/ one of the girls in set.)We finally spilled inside and she turns to me with this funny look and says, (huge pause, funny look) 'Um, Am I supposed to tip you?'"
Now here's the thing about a post opener story: you don't need to tell it. In the beginning, when working with a new opener you do, so you get it down. After that, you always have that story on tap for if you feel like you're stalling. But as you get better at pick-up, it's common to just roll into playful banter and teasing and skip the post-opener story all together.
Door and Aliens
Frienemy: Hey guys I got a question - are you guys dogs or cat people? (people tend to have rather strong opinions when it comes to this question - don't know why.. but why not play on it?)
HB: Dog (or cat.. whatever)
Frienemy: Ok good, (or well thats strange, I just moved down here and you are the first person I have heard say cats.. but) I have this dog at home - he was a rescue so he can be somewhat abrasive at times - and while I was out jogging with him the other day, something ran across my mind. What would aliens think if they came down to Earth and witnessed people walking dogs and picking up their shit after them?
HB: ::laugh, giggle::
Frienemy: No, seriously - I bet they would just think it was the oddest thing.. then they sit down and hear about us having sex doggy style. I dunno.. it just really makes you think!
HB: ::more laughs::
Boom - set opened.
I like this story because there are a couple quick DHV's (compassionate (rescue dog), like to stay fit (jogging), free-spirited (aliens and whatnot)), it involves the entire set with the opinion beginning (without saying - can I get an opinion?) along with moving her mind into the sexual realm (hear about us having doggy style sex.) And cmon - it makes you wonder! haha. Also gives you a quick early chance to neg the target about the dog/cat choice.
The second time I tried this I hardly got past the "I got a question for you.." line before the CB of the group jumped in with the now infamous "Are you like mystery? That sounds like vh1." Immediately froze her out by my new favorite line in that situation
HB: "Are you like mystery? That sounds like vh1 stuff."
Frienemy: What? Wow - you don't think you are worth talking to? - Is she always this way?
::Look at the rest of the group::
Frienemy: You should tell her to smile more : :
Then start to engage with the rest of the group.
Girls kissing opener
PUA: Hey guys, we're having a debate and need a quick opinion on something. If a guy is dating a girl, and she goes out to a bar with her friends one night and makes out with a guy just for fun, is it cheating?
GROUP: Yeah, it's cheating.
PUA: Okay, that makes sense. So here's the real question. And I'll tell you why I'm asking in a second: If she goes out and gets drunk and makes out with a GIRL for fun, is it cheating?
GROUP: (the responses will vary, but if any guys say "no," you can bust on them for having a double-standard etc.)
PUA: Okay. Interesting. The reason I'm asking is because my friend over there has been dating this girl. And she likes to go out and get drunk and make out with girls. Now, some guys might be into that, but it pisses him off and he thinks it's cheating. She says it isn't. So we were trying to figure out who was right.
GROUP: (discussion ensues, which you will have to soon cut off and move into your next piece of material because they will go on and on
The body guard
I am a preety small guy 17 year old, about 5'' 6'. Well my friend is about 6" 2' and he is on the offensive line for the varsity football team. Well me and him were at the mall and i was dressed up semi nice and he was in a suit. We just went out for someone's birthday and he thought we were going to a really nice place. Anyway we were walking around the mall (were a lot of celebreties go) together and people were giving us weird looks like AI looks. I couldn't figure out why, i thought maybe it's my body language or my natural energy. Then about 4 girls came up to me and asked for my autograph and so i just rolled with it and my friend was wondering WTH is going on. This happened about 5 times. So i ended up with giving out my autograph to about 15 people. And then it hit me when we left, people thought my friend was my bodyguard. Sets will blow open if you are able to pull this off. It is like in the game when style was at that restuarant and all those people thought he was a celebrity. This works really Well!!
Masturbating In Shower Routine
You: Did you know that 93% of girls masturbate in the shower?
Her: No
You: The other 7% sing
Her: Oh yeah?
You: And do you know what they sing?
Her: No, what?
You: Oh you must be one of the girls that masturbates then.
Her: HAHAHA
Masturbating in the shower option 2
Me: Did you know that 90% of girls use a vibrator on a daily basis?
Them: No
Me: Yeah and the other 10% just read sex magazines. Do you know what sex magazines they read?
Them: No, what?
Me: I guess that means your are one of the ones that use a vibrator daily huh?
TWIN BROTHERS (Ross Jefferies)
You're at a party or a club and you meet twin brothers;
they are absoutely identical, physically.
[1] ONE of them has the best hands of any guy you've ever met.
The other is an incredible dancer. Which one do you pick?
[2] Same scenario. Again, the two guys are identical. One makes
you laugh more than anyone you've ever met. The other is the
most incredible kisser you could ever in a lifetime encounter.
Which one do you pick?
[3] Same scenario: One guy has more money than Bill Gates.
The other makes you feel like you are the most beautiful,
desirable woman who ever walked the face of the planet. Which do you pick?
(It'd probably be best to make up some sort of back-story for this)
Are You Shy Opener (craigsd)
Are you guys shy? I've been standing here talking
to my friend for like 5 minutes now and you still
haven't said 'hi".
How are you? (how’s ur day)
H: fine
Y: you know it’s kind of rude not to ask how I am after I asked how you are.
H: ok how are you
Y: I am wonderful. In fact I am doing so well my skin is tingling. Here feel my hand (hold out hand. She touches it. You grab her fingers and go bzzz like you are shocking her. She laughs you follow up with more good material)
Option 2
Me: "So how's your day?"
She: Oh, okay.
Me: "That sounds like about 4 on a scale from 1 to 10!"
She chuckles and we are suddenly chatting.
You hurt me
Find the most crowded place in the bar/club; that is, position yourself in an
area where people are forced to bump into you. Next, stick out your elbow when
a hot girl walks by. Then, after she has bumped into you say, "Ow!! You hurt
me". You will have her attention by this point. She will probably be both
laughing and apologizing for what she perceives to be her clumsiness. Now say,
" you were the one who grabbed my ass earlier, weren't you?!" Now half the time
they will grab your ass. If they do (or even if they don't), follow up by
saying something along the lines of this: "You are trying to get fresh with me
and you don't even introduce yourself, what's up with that?" At this point the
two of you are now friends. Now all of this stuff works best when you have the
girls laughing their little butts off.
Weather Opener (Eddy)
YOU: Bad weather huh?
HER: Yeah..
YOU: You know, I can change it..
HER: How?
YOU: (blow in her ear)
HER: hahaha..
say in the beginning, “Look at all these guys, they’re leaning, touching and complimenting - “, girls know about that stuff. The next girl you see, go up to her and ask her, “I was having a conversation with my friend. Let me see if he was right. He was telling me that girls don’t like it when guys get close, lean in and talk to them in their ear. I don’t care who it is. The girl will say, “That’s so gross. I hate that, hate that.”
Girls are sexual predator
“You know what. I can’t trust you guys. Girls are predators. Girls are sexual predators. I come out to clubs, and I see all these guys trying to seduce all these women. But that’s not the case. That’s not the way it works. Guys are so dumb. They think they’re seducing the women. At the end of the day it’s women that choose. It’s the girl that chooses. Guys dangle themselves in front of the women thinking they made it happen. But all along, at the end of the day, girls choose - You know, when guys get mad at their girlfriend, they can’t just go out to a club and sleep with a random girl. It just doesn’t happen. How many guys can do that? How many guys do you think can honestly do that? Less than 3 percent. Look at these guys. Look at them. They go after all these girls. They’re complimenting, they’re leaning in, they’re touching them. That doesn’t get anyone anywhere. That’s not going to work. Some girls like it, but seriously, how many guys do you think can really do that? It’s the girls that choose. Girls go out to the clubs. They put on their push-up bra, high-heel shoes, and just walk around looking hot, choosing guys. That’s the way it is. You know what? You know why this is? It’s because girls are the only gender that has an organ designed solely for sexual pleasure. That’s why girls, when they have sex, they’re like, “oooooh, oooooh” (loud, others in the club hear you). When guys have sex, it’s like “uhhhhh “ (relief).
David Bowie
“Hey guys. I need a female opinion. Do girls think that the rock star David Bowie is hot? My little sister just got a poster of David Bowie to hang up on the wall. She’s only 16. Do you guys think he’s hot? Do you like old men? Do you think old guys are hot?!” Then you turn your back. The girls are like, “What?!”
Dyed hair opinion
hey guys....let me get your opinion on something? my friends were just telling me they think i should dye my hair blond
like completely,.... platinum blond (they'll start laughing since it would look ridiculous on me)
i say it like i think it's nuts too then "so what do u think?" (they start laughin)
and like 90% say no way then "ok, you'll have to come by later and tell my friends that"
or "well, what do u recommend?" and talk about fashion or "so u wanna be like my hair stylist or something?"
or "i' was hoping you'd say yeah, go for it, dye it blonde...i'm looking for someone adventurous."
or "you're just like everyone else who says to keep it dark...i had this sense you'd be different, but i guess not"
Cologne opener
Style: "Hey guys, I want your opinion on something. See, I have two different colognes on my wrists, and I want to see which one you like better."
(Let them smell the cologne. Be cocky and funny, neg the target, etc.)
Style: "The reason is, I have so many colognes from my ex-girlfriends on my shelf, and I want to give some of them away and keep the best ones."
Variation #1:
After she picks one, you pull out a pen and make a mark on your wrist, next to five or ten others.
Variation #2:
Her: “So what are they?”
Style: “This one is hemlock, this one is chloroform.”
Variation #3:
Style: “Thanks. I have all these old colognes around the house, so I’m having a face off. This one has won ten days in a row!”
Who lies more
“Hey guys, quick question...Who lies more...men or women?”
---(Girls talk for a bit, then you cut them off.)
“Ok, I can only stay a sec, my friends are waiting, but who cheats more, guys or girls?”
---(Girls talk for a bit, then you cut them off.)
“I was waiting to get a haircut a few weeks ago, reading one of those women's magazines, and it says that girls lie more and cheat more...is that true??”
---(Girls talk about topic. Go into your next routine.)
Who Lies More Opener (Chris Rock version)
Hey guys, I need a female opinion… who lies more Guys or Girls??
The way I see it guys tell the small lies like "you're ass
doesn't look fat in those pants" but girls… they tell the big
ones... like... "Its your baby!"
JEALOUS CAT (BadPirate)
My friend has been going out with a girl for about three months
and they get along really well, they love each other heaps, but
her cat hates him. Like whenever he tries to pet it, it will
just look at him like he's an not intelligent and walk off and one time he
left his shoes by the door and it pissed on them. What do you think
he should do? We've thought of four things:
1. Just be nice to it even though it's going to hate him.
2. Ignore it.
3. Say to his girlfriend : It's me or the cat.
4. When she's not looking 'accidentally' (two fingers motion) run it over with his car ...
[make a routine how a friend of mine dated this girl that was allergic
to cats and wanted him to get rid of his 2 cats. "he made the right decision
... and dumped the girl -> conveys that you're not needy and that girls have
to adapt to you and not the other way round]
Expensive clothes
EXPENSIVE CLOTHES (TylerDurden)
"Hey guys, I need a female opinion... we were just Saks today, and there were
all these 600$ collared tee-shirts… when chicks see guys wearing 6bill shirts
like that, do they think its classy or try-hard?" (That’s the skeleton
obviously use your own speaking mannerisms)…
Then you can use what info and opinions they give you to bust on them, using
all the usual stuff.
Threesome
STEP ONE: Tell them, genuinely, "I just experienced the most amazing thing. I went to San Diego and hung out with my friend Steve, who's like a guru and a shaman, and an amazing guy. And he had two of his students perform a dual induction massage on me. Their hands were moving in perfect synchronization on me, and because your conscious mind can't follow all those movements, it just disconnects and you feel like there are thousands of hands on you. It was amazing."
the HB getting the massage should be the one who would get the most jealous. She needs to get the attention first to feel comfortable. Also, to make sure this goes smoothly, it's best if this is someone you've *closed or !closed before. It's best to leave her shirt ON, and just do it over the shirt.
Next, tell the HB who's doing the massaging that she must follow your hand movements exactly and move in exact synchronization
STEP TWO: Next, say it's your turn. Take off your shirt, and lie on your stomach. And definitely show appreciation for what they are doing.
STEP THREE: Afterward, say that it's the third girl's turn. Help her out of her shirt, or ask her to take off her shit while she's facing away from you (if she's shy), and have her lie on her stomach.
On this girl, you can make the massage more erotic. Go around the breasts and butt and thighs, WITHOUT actually touching any private parts.
STEP FOUR: Now this is the key move. After you finish the massage, let her lay there on her stomach underneath you and the other girl. Pause a moment to build up a touch of tension, then start making out passionately with the other girl (the one who was just doing the massaging with you) over the back of the girl lying down.
Now, just gently turn the face of the girl lying down towards you. Kiss her. Then gently take the head of the other girl and bring it DOWN to the face of the girl lying on her stomach. If you've created the mood properly, they'll just automatically start kissing. Join in for a threeway makeout, and it's all over.
Evolution Phase Shift-
1. I tell her that she smells good and ask what she is wearing. Then I lean in, brush her hair aside, and sniff her slowly, moving up from the shoulder to the ear. "Mmmm, that smells good. People don't pay enough attention to smell. But you'll notice how animals, before they mate, will always smell each other. Evolution has hard-wired us to respond to certain things. You are wired to respond when someone smells you."
2. "It's like when someone pulls the back of your hair. You'll notice how lions, when they mate, always bite and tug at the end of each other's mane, right here." (Since I'm shaved bald, I'll add here, "This is what I miss the most about not having hair"; if you have hair, say, "This is one of my favorite things".) Then I run my hand up the back of her neck and grab a fistful of hair at the roots and pull it, downwards. She says "Mmmm..." And I say "see."
3. Then I talk about how "No one knows this, but the most sensitive places on the body are places that are usually hidden from contact with the air, like the back of the elbow (touching it) and knee (touching it). Any place where your body bends, twists, or folds, there are millions of sensitive little nerve endings that release endorphins. Then I take her arm, bend it a little, and erotically bite the area on the opposite side of the elbow (that crease where it bends). She usually gets the chills, and I have her ratify how good it feels.
[Note for the less experienced: If you don't know how to erotically bite a girl, learn before you do this. You want to take a big chunk of skin -- not a little pinch! – and slowly and firmly slide your teeth together until they meet and release the skin. You may want to practice on your own elbow first.]
4. After, I say, "But do you know what the best thing in the world is?...A bite...right...here." And I point to the side of my neck. (Every now and then, I'll add, that "this has to do with the fact that it is where the jugular vein is most exposed, and since most sexual fantasies have to do with submission and vulnerability, it sends all the fantasy signals flying.") Then I'll expose my neck and say, "Bite me right here" as if I expect her to do it. Fifty percent of the time she will. If she doesn't, I just turn away calmly (punish), wait a few seconds, and then turn back and repeat, "Bite me right here." Usually she will.
5. Half the time, her bite is lame. If so, I correct her and say, "That's not how you bite. Come here." Then I give her a good bite on the neck and instruct her to "try again." This time, she ALWAYS does a great job.
6. Now you look her in the eye, smile mischievously/approvingly, and say, very slowly, "not bad." Then glance down at her mouth, back up at her eyes, and...yes...finally...you...may...if you want...and if she's ready...um...kiss!
Short Version: smell, grab hair, touch elbow, touch back of knee, bite elbow, bite my neck, bite her neck, triangular gazing, kiss.
Relationships are based on Rocks and Gold
Let me tell you about rocks and gold.
I often tell this story to chicks when they try to give me bullshit about
'being friends' and wanting to go out to dinners et.al. before
agreeing to be my GF/put out sex. It says alot about how guys (and ladies)
think, and why they have so much trouble to understand each other. It should
answer your question about what guys think..
Men and women both appreciate things that are valuable. Diamonds (rocks) and
gold are both very valuable things. In a relationship,
diamonds= personality (ie arranging nice romantic dinners, walks on the
moonlight, candlelight with soft music', a sense of connection),
while gold='sex'.
But women prefer diamonds to gold (usually), and men prefer gold to diamonds
(usually). Of course, both are important, especially in a
long term relationship, but if a woman could choose, she would prefer the
diamonds first, and the man would prefer the gold first.
And (generally), a man can accept gold without the diamonds, and a woman can
accept diamonds without any gold.
So in a relationship, a woman is mining for diamonds, while the man is mining
for gold.
But if you give a woman gold (sex) only, or a man diamonds (romantic walks and
nice dinners) only.. neither is likely to be very happy, and the relationship
will soon fall apart. In short, an exchange of sorts takes place in a
successful relationship.
So if a man expects just gold (sex), but doesnt want to give her diamonds
(relationship & the mushy stuff), then she will dump him fairly soon, because
he is playing/using her just for sex..
And if a woman expects just diamonds (walks, attention, nice dinners,
movies..etc) without giving some gold (sex), then he (if he has any clue about
how to deal with women, though many men do not, especially in North America)
will dump her because she is using/playing him just for his personality.
Style’s Eliciting Values Routine
“What is the experience you most enjoy doing?” (She’ll say dancing or being with family or something)
Alternate wording: “If you had to pick one experience that makes life worth living...what would it be?”
“What is the ideal scenario of you doing that thing? Describe it.”
“So picturing that right now, how do you feel…What emotions?”
"So really then, while I was asking you this, you smiled... and yeah it’s kind of because I'm being a bit funny or weird or whatever... but also, it’s because you could kind of feel that emotion right now, while we were talking about it... can you feel it.. blah blah blah"
“So really then, even though your favorite experience is dancing, your core value is fun and excitement, and the way you feel those emotions in your body... So what's most important to you is the experience of fun and excitement, and whatever leads you to that is most important... blah blah”
“Ok, so in four minutes we've fulfilled your quest for core value. You can die now.”
In other words:
1. Favorite activity
2. Description of her favorite activity in an ideal setting
3. What emotion she gets while she pictures this
4. Show her that she experienced the emotion while picturing it
5. Show her that what she really wants is not so much the activity (although it’s important) but the emotional fulfillment she gets from it.
6. Now she can die happy
The Cube
I am gonna give you a simple picture, with just three >> things in it: the sky, the horizon, and the desert, and I'll ask you >> to fill in a few things in this landscape. Use your imagination in >> fixing any and all the details. Use a pencil and paper if you think >> that'll help." >> >> "In the desert, imagine a cube. What does it look like? What is it >> made of? Where is it located? What state is it in?" >> >> "Now imagine a ladder. What is it made of? How big is it? How many >> rungs? Where is it located in relation to the the cube?" >> >> "Imagine some flowers. How many are they? What kind? Where are they >> located in relation to the cube and the ladder?" >> >> "And now imagine a horse. What kind of horse is it? What color? What >> size? What is it doing? Where in the scenery is it located, in >> relation to the earlier three things?" >> >> "And finally, there's a storm in this landscape. Where is it in >> relation to the other things inthe scenery? Which way is it >> proceeding? What kind of storm is it?" >> >> INTERPRETATION: >> >> The Cube: represents the woman's conception of herself. >> The Ladder: ...friends (and family in some cases). >> The Flowers: ...Children >> The Horse: ...Her lover >> The Storm: ...Troubles in life. >> >> It is usually easy to interpret the details. For example, a cube >> resting nicely on the sand and of neither too tiny nor too huge size >> shows a person with a good sense of proportion about their place in >> the world. A huge cube => egomaniac. A tiny cube => feels >> insignificant; low self-worth. A buried cube => overwhelmed.
1. THE CUBE: Represents the woman's conception of herself. A huge cube covering most of the scenery (Field of View or FOV) means she's got an inflated ego, a sense of high self-importance. Other features of the cube could mean: Tiny cube => feels small, insignificant, ignored, modest Cube resting on the ground => generally has a firm foothold on reality Cube far away in the distance => Feels left behind by life Cube flying in the air or levitated => daydreamer, imaginative but unrealistic Cube partly above the horizon line => ambitious Cube below the horizon => not very ambitious Cube resting on its edge => metastable life, perhaps? Cube made of solid material => good sense of self-worth, well-grounded personality Cube made of gold => Thinks of herself as extremely precious Cube made of glass or transparent cube => Considers herself pure Cube full of slimy stuff => Hates herself completely Cube hollow inside => feels hollow, unfulfilled in the extreme [interesting example: one woman know very well imagined the Rubic's cube, being twisted and turned by a child. I was not surprised because she has a sever persecution complex and total paranoia, considers everyone else stupid and childish (has a holier-than-thou mentality), feels attacked by the world, and is an emotional basketcase]
2. 2. THE LADDER: Represents her close social support structure (friends; family in some cases). Long ladder with many rungs => big social circle, has many friends, outgoing personality, sociable Ladder made of some odd material => feels her friends are weird, very different from normal people Ladder with few rungs => has few close friends Ladder in a less than good condition => believes people around her are fucked up Ladder far away from the cube => Does not let people get too close to herself; keeps aloof, has a hard shell around herself Ladder leaning against cube => Feels she does a lot of things for her friends, supports them more than they support her, feels she has some codependent people around her Ladder on top of cube => Feels her friends/family are overbearing, feels oppressed by them Ladder much bigger than cube => feels small in her social circle\ Ladder supporting cube (like, ladder under the cube) => feels her close associates support her in her accomplishments Strong ladder => is surrounded by strong people, feels secure in them Burned up ladder => Feels surrounded by totally fucked up people who are ruining themselves
3. 3. THE FLOWERS: Represent the place of children in her life. Number of flowers => children she has or wants to have, or has/wants to have around (See * below) Flowers close to cube => Feels very close to the children she has or will have Flowers far away => Does not want children Flowers blooming well => Feels positive about her children's lives Flowers messed up => is surrounded by screwed up children * Lots of flowers everywhere => Probably works with children, or would like to; (One chick I know had this; she is a grade school teacher) Flowers shaking in the wind => feels children in her life have hardships Flowers all around/over the cube => Feels overwhelmed by kids Flowers separated from cube by the ladder => feels her friends/family (do/will/might) interfere in her relationship with her children Beautiful flowers (roses, poppy etc) => Finds children very beautiful
4. 4. THE HORSE: Represents her thoughts about her lover (or the lover she thinks she wants or will have). Strong, large horse => Wants a protective, strong man Color of horse => Possibly the race of the lover she wants (the teacher chick mentioned above has a "latin thing" - her horse was brown) Horse close to the cube => Wants the lover to be very close to her emotionally and physically Horse well separated from cube => Is reserved about opening up completely to lovers Horse licking/sniffing the cube => Imagines/wishes she's being doted on Small, submissive horse => Wants a lover she can dominate Wild horse => wants a guy who is not tamed and will not be tamed Tethered horse => Wants to keep him very restrained/restricted Horse stomping on the cube => Has been or feels extremely abused by lovers Horse destroying the flowers => Feels the lover will not be good towards her children (single moms probably have this thing more often) Horse messing with the ladder => Conflict between her lover and her friends Horse far away or walking away => Feels abandoned Horse separated from flowers by the cube => feels she will have to take care of the children and manage her lover's relationship with them Weak horse => envisions being (stuck?) with a wimp [example: one chick I know had a horse running around in a confined arena. She is a controlling, limit-setting type chick who likes to watch her man react to her experiments with his emotions/behavior.]
5. 5. THE STORM: Represents her ideas about troubles in life. Storm in the distance => Troubles are not overwhelming her presently Storm approaching => Fears crises in future Storm receding => Has had troubles recently but feels they are over Huge, dominant storm => Feels her life is in deep shit Storm in the distance, passing away affecting none of the other four things in the scenery => Feels her life is relatively trouble-free, has few problems around in her life. Small storm => Feels secure about problems she will face
Soul-Gazing Routine
"Let me show you something really interesting. They SAY the eyes are the window
to the soul, but that's really only half true. The RIGHT eye (I point to HER
right eye ... not the eye that appears on MY right, but her actual, eye on HER
right side) is the window to the body and the mind ... and the left eye
(pointing to HER left eye) is the window to the soul. So, we're going to do a
little soul gazing here. You see the Celts don't believe in soul-mates. That
just creates too much pressure. The Celts believe in Soul-Friends, that we have
plenty of soul friends just waiting to meet us. So, as I open up my left eye, and let you in, to see this soul friend waiting to meet you, you can open up your left eye, and let me see the soul friend that's been waiting her whole life to meet me.
(Then relax and soften my eyes ... thinking loving thoughts ... 100% of the
time, they follow right along ... when I see a little sparkle in their eye I
say) THERE! RIGHT THERE! THAT one! Can you FEEL THAT (squeeze the hand) is the coolest thing to experience? They are amazed 100% of the time by this! Now I
have a soul friend anchor on her left hand, just by squeezing it (I don't
anchor the right hand ... as it would get fired off by everyone who shakes her
hand! I want it to be uniquely anchored to ME if possible!)
I don't do this last part. Instead I wait about 30 seconds peering deep into
her eyes. Then I say something like: "I can feel your energy going through
me. I feel like you've known you my whole life." Transition to IC.
Amog
AMOG: Hey girls whats up (or whatever)
PUA: Hey dude dude (putting hands up like you give up).
I will pay you a HUNDRED dollars right now, to take these girls away from me.
(Girls will go "no no no... we love you PUA.. noooooo"
and giggle and crawl on you.. Again, immediately deflating to the guy)
AMOG: Hey girls what's up (or whatever)
PUA: Dude, OMG that shirt is AWESOME.. I had one just like it in highschool,
it fucking rocks man.. Having a good time in London man.. It's awesome huh?
Dude you're like the coolest guy I met all night.. (patting him on the shoulder)
AMOG: (showing signs that he wants to fight)
PUA: hahah, dude, are you like trying to pick a fight with me? hahahha..
ok ok hold up hold up.. wait a sec, we'll do even better.. first...
we'll have an armwrestling competition.. then second..
we'll do one armed pushups.. and last..... POSE-DOWN!!
AMOG: Hey man.. keep talking.. no no, let's hear your pitch man..
pick these girls up man, you're doing awesome.
PUA: Hey, you know I've gotta try to impress you COOL
(x-city, x-dressed, x-whateverquality) guys.. You guys fucking ROCK.(cut him
down on whatever limited amount of knowledge you have of him, even if its not
relevant whatsoever, he'll feel uncomfortable and his bodylanguage will show it)
AMOG: (starts touching you to show dominance)
PUA: hahhaha, DUUUUDE, I'm not into guys man... dude, there's club-gay-whatever
over there man.. hands off the merchandise buddy (girls laugh at him,
then he starts qualifying himself to you that he's not gay)
AMOG: (gets in your face)
PUA: dude, you're an alphamale..
AMOG: what's that..
PUA: you know, like the leader of the pack.. you call the shots..
you can put your hands on guys you don't know, cause you're alpha..
(fucks up his whole 'look cool' game, because you've characterized
all his manneurisms, so anything he does to look alpha makes him appear
to be qualifying himself too you.. if he continues, just say "see... alphamale..
whoa tiger, I can't mess")
AMOG: (gets in your face)
PUA: (don't answer.. just SIT there quiet.. the more he says stuff to you,
the more he's TRYING.. talking too long without an answer is QUALIFYING yourself..
so if he keeps trying to out-alpha you, and you don't answer, eventually he
looks beta because he tried too hard to get your attention.. another trick is to
make "let's get out of here" girlcode with your eyes to the girls
(mimmick what they do to eachother when you do a bad set), and
they'll leave with you
AMOG: fight blah blah..
PUA: guy man, these chicks just told me that they dig you like so bad..
you don't have to fight to prove yourself to them..
they think you're an alphamale dude.. you don't need to try so HARD man..
just BE REAL..
1) "whoa.. dude, you remind me so much of the most popular guy from my high school.. like the captain of the football team guy, who beats up all the nerds.."
2) "whoa.. dude, you're like a total alpha male.. yeah, I'm serious.. I watched this show on TV describing alpha males.. you totally fit the bill."
3) "dude.. you're a pretty cool guy.. you know, I'm just saying that you're cool.. you're just a cool guy" (in a way where he can't tell if you're serious, so he has to say "thanks", but doesn't quite know how to react)
Cute Couple Opener
When I see a guy and a girl talking, I often walk over and say "You are such a
cute couple!" to make the girl deny they are together and follow up with "But
you are so cute together, he is the perfect guy for you, look he is even well
dressed/good looking/fit/tanned" and keep at it until she starts moving away
from the poor guy in denial.
BAIT, HOOK, REEL, RELEASE.
YOU: What nationality are you?
HER: FRENCH.
YOU: Seriously? No WAY!!! The girl I had the biggest crush on in high school was French! I can't even talk to you now.
YOU: If you could be anything in the world with no chance of failure, what would you want to be? And don't say "Princess" haa.
HER: Um, an actress.
YOU: Really? When I was little I wanted to grow up and be a magician. And you know what I am now? A magician! So you want to be an actress. I'm living proof that our dreams can come true. It would be so cool if you were an actress. I LOVE THAT! We need to figure out how to make that happen. I bet you'd be an amazing actress. But what if you get more attention than I? I can't even hang out with you now.
Whole Room Destroyer
"Listen, I'll tell you what. I will introduce you to any other guy in
the room. (Gesture around the room so that they look.) Pick anyone
out, and I will personally walk up and introduce you to him. And I
will guarantee you that not one of them is as interesting as us/me."
Make sure they look around and see all the boring AFCs.
They always ratify this, thus confirming to themselves that you ARE
the prize.
BE REAL ROUTINE
You know, my friends are like these awesome guys.. And I love hanging out with
them and they're really cool.. But its weird, because they're totally different
people like just normally, and like when they go out to socialize in clubs.
Like they get all touchy and needy and ask all this "what's your name" to
random girls that they're grabbing and stuff like that, or try to buy them
stuff to make them talk to them before they even gave the girls a chance to
just talk to them..
Like they can't just BE REAL and just lay back and be chill, and just be
confident that the girls will like them.. They have to touch them and like try
to get them all horny or something.. It's so weird.
G-String Routine
Hey I definitely need to understand this. How come you girls
find g-strings more comfortable than normal underwear?
I mean how can THAT be comfortable? Doesn't it get in your butt?
- a common response I get, it really feels comfortable.
Then I continue with, you girls find that feeling in your butt nice?
You girls are so bad I can't believe you guys!
Or they'll either say, because It looks better.
Response, OMG just so that your ass will look better to people?
I can't believe you guys! All that work so youre ass looks nice?
OMG! You guys are trouble! I need to watch myself with you guys.
Frame Reversal Routine
I need to tell you something. This is serious. I'm pregnant.
Our reckless hand holding has had consequences. I hope that
you'll want to be a part of our new child's life, but either
way I'm keeping it and there's nothing you can do about it.
I'll be waiting for the monthly support check. You can start
now by getting me something to drink. Oh my goodness, I just
felt it kick. Hurry on that drink. Our baby needs it.
NEVER BE COUPLE OPENER (ijjjji, TD)
"Aww - you are soo cute.. but you make me SO SAD!
(HB:WHY?)
(pause with puppy dog face) Cos we could NEVER EVER be a couple!
(HB:WHYYY???)
Nooo.. we are too similar.. IMAGINE, we would be SO IN LOVE..
and the next moment, we would be fighting and screaming and throwing things..
and then we would have HOT MAKE UP SEX all over the place.. and then fight,
makeup sex, fight, make up sex.. after a week we would both be in psychiatric
care due to emotional drainage!"
Tough on the outside but sensitive on the inside
"You know what: You put on this whole act of being tough, but on the
inside, you are really sensitive". If the woman puts up a tough
exterior, she probably is sensitive. Many people - and especially
girls - who act tough on the outside are really sensitive. If it's
true about them, follow it up by telling them that you can relate
because you are that way too. This builds comfort, rapport, and a
bond between you and her. Now you might want to solidify the bond by
telling her a story about why you are this way too
actor vs. observer
ME: (looking at the blonde) I bet that you are more of an observer than an actor.
BLONDE: What do you mean?
ME: There are some people in this world who are totally in the moment.
They are the ones who are always participating in what is going on. They are actors.
Then there are people who are kinda standing back, analyzing what is going on.
They are observers. You are an observer. I bet that sometimes there are things that
come along that you want to do, but before you do them, you have to think about it,
analyze it. But you are happiest when you can just let go, not analyze, and be in the moment.
BLONDE: Yea that is very true about me.
ME: But with her (pointing to the brunette), she is more adventurous.
BRUNETTE: Your good.
ME: I bet you like attention.
BRUNETTE: Well...
ME: From people that are special to you, you really love attention. And it's like in that
context, you feel comfortable and enjoy being the centre of attention.
BRUNETTE: yea...very true.
ME: Yea, see, I am the same way...
MINI-COLD-READS (TD)
-"you're bad"
-"oooohhhh noooo.. you guys are *trouble*"
-"you guys are the nice ones.. I can only hang with you.."
-(for when she answers that she is NOT adventurous, during Swingcat qualifying)
"yeah.. you're more quiet.. like Velma from Scoobie Doo.. you're smart,..
and you *solve mysteries*"
-"I don't know about you.. I have a x-feeling about you.."
-"there's something suspicious going on here... I'm not sure what, but I can just feel it"
-"you guys are *fiesty*.. like little powerpuff girls"
-"you are *crazzzzzy*"
-"I can't trust you guys"
-"ok, I can trust you now.. you guys are *IN*.. you're trustworthy"
-"you're my new bestfriend" (while caveman-ing her.. making the link from her
letting you grab her, to her being your new best friend.. it makes NO SENSE whatsoever,
but makes PERFECT sense to HER)
-"that-is-*awesome*.. you're gonna be my NEW GIRLFRIEND"
(after something ARBITRARY, like a line in her palm, or showing you a cool tatoo or
something equally stupid, but is somehow DERIVED from something she showed you...)
-"you guys are like crime-fighters"
-"you guys are total bad-girls"
-"you're the leader"
-"you guys are A-Crowd material" (after she says something cocky to you)
-"dude, these girls are obviously VERY adventurous"
James Bond Villain Routine (paradiso_rush)
Me: You're bad....
HB: blah blah
Me: Yeah, and check out your shoes too. You know who you remind me of?
HB: Who?
Me: You know, that chick in the James Bond movies. The one who has those
shoes... they bring her in when they want to assassinate someone, and she does
something and little spikes come out of her shoes and she KICKS the guy and he
gets poisoned to death.
HB: hahahahaha
Me: You know what we should do?
HB: What?
Me: We should run away together, and go to an island in the Caribbean, and
build a mansion there with a huge manmade lagoon.
HB: Oh?/Yeah!/blah
Me: Yeah, and then underneath it we'll build a big ass laser gun, and then
we'll point it at x-country (sometimes they will go nooooo, I like x-country,
and you can go into a little sideline of figuring out which country you're
going to point the laser gun at. If they're foreign, and you know what country
THEY come from, you might try mentioning that place first, if you're being a
bit of a jerk) and we'll tell them we will laser them unless they give us ONE
BILLION DOLLARS (you can go all Dr Evil here if you like, I don't usually).
HB: Yeah!
Me: But you know what we need, though? We need an army. So, I'll have to
recruit an army of guys in uniforms, with big futuristic guns, but you know, I
also want another army.
HB: Yeah?
Me: Yeah, and YOU will be in charge of recruiting them. I want an army of,
like, HOT girls in bikinis who are, like, total martial arts experts. And when
things are good, they can just lounge around the pool in bikins being hot, but
when there's bad shit going down they can take down all the invading special
forces guys by leaping on them and snapping their necks with their thighs...
YEAH! HB: hahahah
PUA: I love you..
HB: hahahaha.. yeah right!!
PUA: what?? whaaat? I'm serious, I want to marry you.. I love you so much!!
HB: hahahahha.. yeah right!!!
PUA: I do.. I swear! Close your eyes.. I want to show you something..
HB: noooo way!!
PUA: OMG I'm so embarressed.. you're making me so shy!! I told you that I
loved you, and totally revealed all my emotions, and you're stomping all over
them like a little ant hill!! (make PUPPY DOG faces, so you look SOOO CUTE..)
HB: OMG I'm soooo sorry.. I totally love you.. here.. (closes her eyes)
PUA: (now KISS the chick while her eyes are closed)
HB: hahahahahhaha.. OMG you jerk!!
PUA: yeah.. so what do you like so much about jerks??
Gay Cats Routine
Initial hook: Start the story with, "Have you ever met a gay cat?"
After this, you'll have the undivided attention of your audience.
(Wilder)
PUA: Ok, get this, my friend Sara, bought 3 cats some time ago.
I dont know what she was thinking when she bought them, but she
bought all three *male* cats. It was so funny. When I would go
to her place to visit her, I would see the cats spooning each
other, sometimes even licking each other.
HB: smiling
PUA: No Really. I told Sara "you know what, I think they're gay,
I mean not gay by birth, but maybe prison gay... you know. I mean
they havent seen a female cat in months... what are they supposed
to do" So Sara started getting freaked out, its amazing how she
never thought about it. And we decided one day that we're gonna
do something about it, coz the last thing Sara wanted were gay
cats. So we embarked on a mission to find a female cat.
HB: hehehe
PUA: And Sara had a neighbor that she really hated, he had a
female cat, so once while the guy was away, we stole it and put
it in the room with three male cats. Only God knows what happened
then.
HB: LOL!!
Punchline: "So now her neighbor's cat is knocked up. So pretty
soon I think I know where you can get your very own little gay
kitten!"
TATTOO OPENER
Hey guys, would you ever get a Tattoo?
Here's the deal… my nineteen-year-old sister wants to get her boyfriends
name tattooed on her shoulder.
(no, no don't let her do it)
See that's the problem she's really strong headed and when I tell her
not to get the tattoo it just makes her want to get it even more.
How do I deal with that and let her really know its mistake?
JEALOUS GIRLFRIEND
“Hey guys, I need a female perspective on something. This’ll only take a
minute. My roommate’s girlfriend just found a shoebox he keeps hidden in a
dresser drawer, and she’s really upset about it.
It’s nothing bad, just pictures of him and ex-girlfriends on vacation and old
love letters he got in high school and stuff. But for some reason his
girlfriend is freaking out about this and wants him to get rid of it or she’s
threatening to break up with him.
Is this normal female behavior?”
So now she wants him to burn the box or she’s leaving him, isn’t that f'd
up??
(girls get ridiculously into this opener and it helps if you tease them for it)
Seattle GF Opener (TD)
"Hey guys, I need an opinion. My friend met this girl in Seattle, and they
really hit it off. They wound up hooking up on the first night, and he even
hung out with her in L.A. over the next week. So he's up visiting her in
Seattle last week, and they're out on a walk. He takes a few pictures of them
together. Like really cute ones with them together. Some of them they're just
hanging out, and a few of them they're like kissing or whatever while they're
out walking. Anyway, the next morning he wakes up, and checks his camera. He
looks at the pictures, and he sees that she's woken up before him and gone into
it and deleted the pictures where they're kissing, and left the ones where
they're just hanging out. He goes to her and says 'Are you psycho? Why are
you going into my camera?' She says its because she thought she looked bad in
the pictures, and didn't want him to have them. But he can't figure out if
she's psycho or if its legit that for girls they just hate having pictures out
there where she doesn't look good. He just really liked them because he likes
her and doesn't judge the pics like that."
The girls will either say:
"It's totally natural. I hate it when pictures make me look bad, especially
with a digital camera where you can just delete them and take more." (They also
sometimes say "But he's only known her a few months. I wouldn't do that on a
guy I just met.")
-or-
"She has a boyfriend!"
Your immediate reply would be "He doesn't care about that. He's busy. He just
doesn't want her deleting his pics!
Girls fighting
With great enthusiasm...
"OMG!… did you see those two girls fighting outside? Like right outside the club... they were totally going at it; one was pulling the others' hair, and the other one drew blood with her nails.
And they seemed to be fighting over this short guy; he was standing near them just totally laughing!"
Winner-Loser Banter Routine:
Do this routine when she fails to do something or even better yet when you can do something and she can't.
Psych: Haha it's ok babe...really, it is. Look at it this way without losers like you there just couldn't be winners like me. Seriously how could I be a winner if you don't always lose? You're actually an incredibly vital element to the whole system...it's a circle of life type of thing. So don't feel bad about being a loser just remember you have an important part in the scheme of things...keeping me a winner.
You will get some major kino pinging (aka her punching the crap out of your arm lol) if you want to convert into a tickle fight or boost up kino then awesome but take it anywhere.
Bar Routine
This is only a good opener when you see a set against the bar.
Psych: Hey I only have a sec cause I'm here with some friends, would you mind using some of that feminine charm of yours to get the bartenders attention for me?
Look what you're doing here with just this one simple line...a functional opener that any girl would feel socially obligated to fullfill because it also slightly validates her (this is ok for this type of opener), creates a challenging frame (you can hammer this in by making it a competition of who can get the bartender over first...this also creates playfulness), It makes her qualify herself (does she have enough feminine charm to do this...well she sure wants to prove to you she can now), Very indirect so works perfectly with most structures including phase shift, Grants you automatic time with her since anyone in field knows how hectic the bartenders are and chances are it's gonna be a while to get their attention, so plenty of time to transition and start attraction
Room Raiders Game
When in seduction setting namely your room, a good thing to do is play room raiders (however remove anything of DLV before hand from your room but don’t make it TO good, they like to find little things to rag on you about, however make them DHVs for example)
• a porno (but only one not a bunch)
• women clothing such as shoes or hair clips (not underwear though just something so she knows other women were here)
• an old pic of you as a kid
However its important to have many good DHVs in your room as well that she will openly respond to such as trophies, pictures of you doing something active or crazy, lava lamp, very light sex games that she might want to play such as scratch off sex coupons or love dice ect ect
Role playing like you're on room raiders gets her in a playful mood, makes her comfortable in your room and makes her feel like she's getting to know you, creates attraction with the DHV plants, and even helps extract to a seduction location "Hey you ever been on room raiders? I would totally win! Come on you raid my room and let me know what you think"
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