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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:14 am 
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I'll give an example from this afternoon:

My girlfriend texts me, says she wants me to come over to "make out haha" before her trip to her parents tonight. I text back fairly quickly, then drive to her apartment.

When I walk in the door, she looks amazing. And so does her roommate, who's sitting in a chair.

My girlfriend truly looked striking, but that's not what I came at her with. She said with a big smile "I'm glad you came over". Instead of saying "you look hot" or "you're beautiful", I said "yeah, I know you're desperate".

They both started cracking up badly and blushing, and her roommate gets up and hugs me, then my girlfriend., all the while laughing.

It's your lives, gents. Win the room, or be the corny guy.

Her roommate hugged me again, then left the apartment, and I gave my girlfriend an orgasm, and she left on her trip.
So you're saying that you used humor instead of complimenting your girlfriend.

I'll use an example. Before I really knew what I was doing with women, I took this girl out that had this amazing body and pretty face, but I'm emphasizing the body. We were going out and she wore this tight black dress. The whole night, I never said anything about how she looked but we had an awesome night. We went back to my hotel room and while we were in there she asked me why I didn't say anything about how she looked. She told me that she wanted to look good for me and I didn't say anything. She wanted the compliment. If I would have given it to her, it would have meant something to her.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:14 am 
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I know many hot chicks who dont get pleasure from weak men, and who are intuitive enough to distinguish a needy guy from a confident guy, nevermind the words used.
i don't know, Neo. You look at a forum like this, and it's basis is teaching men to play the game the way women have on men. The reality is most guys are clueless and helpless against women, who are much more socially savy.

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Also, I dont know how maturity means she cant tell her dad about you. In the other thread you said this girl told you she loved you and would do anything for you...but she cant have a adult conversation with her dad?
That moment is coming very soon. Probably tomorrow, but honestly it's none of my business. You point out an interesting contradiction, though...but not one that worries me.

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And where is the alpha male when you have to accept less and say "no situation is perfect?"
When you get older (I'm not sure what your age is) it becomes more of a quality thing. I'd rather have one great girl that I occasionally have to game, then several lesser women. You also begin to realize that no one is perfect. Being alpha is coming to grips with reality, and adjusting. It's about self-awareness.
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But I get it...this is your gf and I hope she is sweet to you at least.
Incredibly sweet.

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My thing is, I'm not seeing maturity or alpha here; I mean...alpha doesnt mean you dont call her as much as she does when your hiding from the dad. And maturity doesnt mean she has a job when she's not past the "let me feel better about myself at the expense of others" phase. It just sounds like an immature situation, posing as a real adult relationship.
Maybe it is, man. Maybe. But it's fun as hell, and we're all going to die anyway.


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But, i like you Arch. You always seem to be honest and forthcoming and I really believe that you are truthful when you describe your experiences. Its just that I think youve allowed certain women to develop your opinions which may have led to you being more likely to attract that type of woman. Sometimes I think you'll take something i write to you to wrong way, but you always come back chill; for the record i'm not chastising you or judging you; just trying to see where your ideas come from. But I respect your honesty and demeanor

Thanks, I appreciate that. I try to just be sincere. I'm here to learn just as much as I am to pass on some of my experience.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:17 am 
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"It will only mean something to women at these attractive levels if they are emotionally invested in you."
That's where I disagree. There doesn't have to be emotional investment. She just has to feel that you guys are equals in some way.

Arch just said his girlfriend got dressed up and he didn't compliment her and instead made a joke. She's not emotionally invested enough yet, I guess.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:22 am 
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We went back to my hotel room.....
In that situation I'd have started going heavier on the looks and sexual compliments. To me it's already game on, no more holding back. I'd start escalating physically and verbally even on the way to the hotel, possibly before depending on what you were doing.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:26 am 
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We went back to my hotel room.....
In that situation I'd have started going heavier on the looks and sexual compliments. To me it's already game on, no more holding back. I'd start escalating physically and verbally even on the way to the hotel, possibly before depending on what you were doing.
Like I said...before I knew what I was doing. That's when I was getting laid just because I was an asshole.

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Like I said...before I knew what I was doing. That's when I was getting laid just because I was an asshole.
Gotcha. For what it's worth, I wasn't criticizing.

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i don't know, Neo. You look at a forum like this, and it's basis is teaching men to play the game the way women have on men. The reality is most guys are clueless and helpless against women, who are much more socially savy.
If they are much more socially savy, then shouldnt they be able to distinguish a confident compliment from a needy one? See, if you're saying their more savvy, then they should be able to. If they ARE just hearing compliments all day from clueless guys and they hear yours, see you and they STILL think you're one of those guys, then they're not socially savy. Saying women are not socially savy so cant distinguish would make more sense.

As to you using humor in that situation, fine. But you could have used a compliment and gotten a good reaction. For eg, I could have been you in that scenario...would have had no problem with saying something as simple as "wow...you look beautiful" with some good eye contact and her and her and her friend would be blushing the same way. Friend would have said "i'll leave you 2 alone" while both felt the tension in the room, friend leaves, sex all the same. Or I may have taken your route.

I've done things a bunch of different ways and seen that many things work. I've given girls a flower in front of friends. Ive grabbed girls in front of friends. Ive teased girls in front of friends. Ive complimented girls in front of her friends. Same response. Well, I mean the response itself may be different ie laugher, tension, playfulness, romanctic vibe, but I'm doing something in an attractive way so I'll get a good response. You can say a generic compliment in an attractive way. You can joke in an attractive way. You can do xyz in an attractive way. You can win a room in a variety of ways. If you're an attractive man (not just looks) it doesnt matter much what you say specifically.


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Side note: there was a time when almost every date I'd get a girl a gas station rose. My date spot was a few blocks away from my place and the gas station was a block away from there. So I think one date I just was being random and told a chick to trust me and I was taking her somewhere. So she'd got in my car, I stopped at the gas station, I could see her wondering what I was doing, I said I needed to get some protection, just when she is in my car waiting for me thinking I'm so crude I came out of the gas station with a $2 rose. Smile, cheese. Back to my place. So I just found it funny and kept doing it. Was a nice little curveball to throw cause I'd get them to my car easily and just when they felt I was a dick, I'd be nice. Then since they were already in the car, lets stop off at my place. So yeah, Ive given alot of women flowers an hr into the date.


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OK GUYS, enough hijacking.. I internet stalked this girl, or as I would like to call "private investigation." (at least I'm pretty sure it's her) she's in a relationship, and she's in town only because she's coming back to school, after her initial degree landed her a whopping job as a waitress. She's based out of a different town, and I imagine she's here by herself to get some more credit hours and get back into her field. furthermore, she's expecting a kid next year!! (not siting my sources, but these are facts)

my guess? she was on her period. hasn't had a man in a little too long. misses her man. wanted to bang, and I caught her in the right time at the right place, hence her apparent eagerness. anyway, I texted her twice today, and no response. I am now so deep in the hole I've dug that I might as well file a restraining order on myself.

Also, I'm now inclined to agree that you shouldn't just tell a girl she's beautiful. it's generic, bland, and unoriginal. there are various sources that I've found that verifies this. It's better for the complement to come from a genuine place, or targeting something very specific, like her clothes, her hair, or something like that. Admittedly, I didn't build a very good rapport with her, as I had originally thought. So lesson learned.

but there's a silver lining. I went grocery shopping today, and met two wonderful girls. Solid numbers, and probably dates this weekend. HAWLUHHHHHHH.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:54 am 
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OK GUYS, enough hijacking.
This is our thread now.

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OK GUYS, enough hijacking.. I internet stalked this girl, or as I would like to call "private investigation." (at least I'm pretty sure it's her) she's in a relationship, and she's in town only because she's coming back to school, after her initial degree landed her a whopping job as a waitress. She's based out of a different town, and I imagine she's here by herself to get some more credit hours and get back into her field. furthermore, she's expecting a kid next year!! (not siting my sources, but these are facts)

my guess? she was on her period. hasn't had a man in a little too long. misses her man. wanted to bang, and I caught her in the right time at the right place, hence her apparent eagerness. anyway, I texted her twice today, and no response. I am now so deep in the hole I've dug that I might as well file a restraining order on myself.

Also, I'm now inclined to agree that you shouldn't just tell a girl she's beautiful. it's generic, bland, and unoriginal. there are various sources that I've found that verifies this. It's better for the complement to come from a genuine place, or targeting something very specific, like her clothes, her hair, or something like that. Admittedly, I didn't build a very good rapport with her, as I had originally thought. So lesson learned.

but there's a silver lining. I went grocery shopping today, and met two wonderful girls. Solid numbers, and probably dates this weekend. HAWLUHHHHHHH.
Lol...where did you get these lessons from in here? You gave a sincere compliment, her eyes lit up as you said. Why would you then think you shouldnt have done this? Also, if you think you caught her at the right place and right time, why wouldnt you take from this that you should have capitalized from it there? Why not learn that you shouldnt have taken it further right there? Because guess what, if your assumptions about her are true, and you could go back in time, NOT telling her she was stunning and building rapport wouldnt have gotten you a different outcome. Right place, right time = you push things further right there.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:16 am 
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LMAO...I just realized you said the facts are that she is pregnant while on her period.

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