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But she's sitting across the table from you at a bar, so you haven't really done any kino.
What about direct eye contact and sexual innuendo? Yes, it's better to sit side by side, but kino is not required before taking a woman home.
I did minimal sexual innuendo. Really tryna work on that. On the other hand I am a naturally eye contact intensive guy. Women comment on this often, in particular the ones who are most interested in me.
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You both finish your first round of drinks, at which point you decide to go for it. "Let's get out of here", you say. She says, a little surprised "Where?". "Back to my place", you say. She just flat out says "No." You stay cool and say "alright, let's get another round here then."
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Nope. As soon as she says "no," you smile, and look at your watch. Then you say, "it was amazing meeting you, I had a blast, but I have to work on a project."
Then you leave, cordially and with a grin.
Women are welcome to join you, or they'll miss the party. It's that simple.
I've done this numerous times and had them text me that night, asking to come over.
A dominant, confidant male is congruent with his desires. He goes for what he wants, respectfully (IE, not like the pigs in the news lately).
As people have said this is brazen. BUT, this is the kind of thing you told me many months ago that actually worked like a charm on a total babe.
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She orders water, starts texting people on her phone, and 15 minutes later she says she's gonna leave.
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when you leave first, you display higher value. you hung out too long.
Interesting.
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As we left the bar she basically power walked away from me.Is there any recovery from this kind of situation? I'm thinking almost no chance here. I won't text her for a couple days, at which point I'll say something cocky funny or an inside joke. If she bites, it's on, if not, next fish in the sea.
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Don't text her for a week. When you do text her, invite her over for Netflix.
She gave me a hard "No" when asked to go back to my place which would imply I was coming on too strong. Isn't inviting her to netflix also coming on kind of strong? It seems kind of like doubling down on something that didn't work. I don't know of any other way to turn this around, so I will probably do it anyway, but I am curious what you think here.
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My rule of thumb for first dates is 45 minutes and at least one round of drinks - after 45 minutes give or take if the date is going well I will often ask a girl back to my apartment. Is that 45 min/1 round of drinks rule of thumb reasonable?
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Yes, it's ideal. too many guys drink like fish and make asses out of themselves, or drag things on all night. Most women have jobs, and as the night wears on they get tired. Do you want all her good energy spent at the bars, or at your place?
I will throw in that I agree with you on all points above. I have a really high success rate getting women back to my place but had a couple failures recently that had me rethinking my assumptions. Literally having 2 failures in a month is a lot of failures for me, which I think is over all a positive sign.
Just last night this 45 min / 1 drink rule worked and I returned to my usual success.
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Historically, when I've failed to get a chick back to my apartment at the first round, she will usually come back to my apartment after the second round. It seems like I offended this one though. Is asking a chick back to your place a potential date ending/offensive question? I think the answer is probably not - I think she's just sensitive or something.
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She'll live, lol.
You did well, man. Remember, it's ALWAYS better to be too dominant, than too passive.
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Hypothetically, with most women, if I decided I particularly wanted to date them, would I be better off not asking them back to my apartment and just going for a kiss close? Usually women like when you make moves.
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It doesn't matter. Great sex/chemistry organically leads to dating. Employ the same seduction techniques and never classify a new woman as "relationship material". that is EARNED, organically, over time. If not, you'll find your ass dumped unless she's obese.
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