Be careful with feedback from girls who tell other people that they aren't interested. Sometimes they'll tell others that they aren't interested and will turn around and actually be interested. Other times they'll tell people that they are interested and not really be interested. I'm not going to pretend to know why this happens other than them being in the moment. Bottom line is that you don't want to let others relay to you what a girl thinks.

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Your signature,,,haha

Thanks. Felt slightly better after reading that.

I watched some infields last night from nightgame, and every PUA asked the girl what she does for work, so I don't tihnk I did anything wrong by asking her! And like I say, even though she told my friend ''he bored me because he kept asking about my work'' that's bollox. I asked - She told me - I asked her what made her pick that sort of job, and that was about it.

I guess i'm actually more annoyed that my friend brought it up! Made me feel bad because he said it as if he was some sort of expert playboy womaniser, but he never gets laid either! It really bugged me hearing that from HIM of all people, lol

But I guess at least he's get the excuse that he's never 'learnt game' (not that he knows that I read all of these books and forums and stuff)

Nothing is wrong with asking what they do for work, as long as you're genuinely interested.

You could ask a girl what she had for breakfast, and as long as you asked in the RIGHT way, you could spark attraction.

Don't concentrate on your words, concentrate on emotion, body language, establishing kino.

Get her laughing, get her happy. Use funny/deadpan/interesting facial expressions. Don't be afraid to touch (hand on her shoulder or back for starters). EYE CONTACT. Wink. Flirt.

You will quickly learn that there is far more meaning in body language, voice tonality, etc than there is in the words that you're speaking.

Let me ask you (and anybody else who may be reading) a question about eye contact and vibe,

In most of my interactions, I make it clear with my eye contact and general 'vibe' that I am extremely interested in the girl. For example, A month or so back a girl who didn't even seem interested in me said ''You just eye fucked the shit out of me'' shortly after I approached her and said ''who are you?!'' I tend to unconsciously kind of stare into their soul when I see a hot really girl.

The guys at seddit told me that this was GOOD thing, and that I was showing my intent. But are they right? Maybe I show my hand too early and it kills the tension and maybe puts them on guard more?

I bought yet another RSD product yesterday and, in the infields, I note that often Julien isn't particularly obvious about his intent. He often opens, talks a lot of nonsense and the girl doesn't seem to be sure as to whether he desires her or not. It's often like the intent eye contact is one of the last things he does...even AFTER physical escalation

Maybe I should experiment with being more neutral and aloof and maybe only try to show intent once I think that she's interested

No eye contact is GOOD, once it's the right eye contact, preferably with a hint of a genuine smile. What probably happened was that you gave a start without the smile.

I haven't watched a lot of RSD product in the last few years, but while it may be possible to get away without eye contact, I personally wouldn't recommend it.

I'm still alive.

I did go out on Friday and Saturday but it was the first time in ages where I made ZERO approaches.

Partly because I was just feeling low on confidence and as well as having a couple of very noticable, large spots come up on my face. That's all I need!

But also partly because of that thread on here:
natural-game/natural-and-here-how-get-w ... 01152.html

where he says not too cold approach and let the DTF girls come to you. I thought it couldn't hurt!

So, i just concentrated on having fun with all of my friends. There was a big group of us and I hadn't see some of them in like 6 months so were were just having a really good time.. If it was true that girls approach guys who are having fun, laughing etc, then it would have happened to me that night, but it didn't!!
Zero girls approached me

Anyway, it's my birthday soon so will likely be going back to the town where I nearly got laid in one of more recent field reports. We'll see if it was a one off, of it it's my lucky town!

At least being from another town gives me a kind of opener that can lead to a conversation. I still really don't usually know what to say after I open so maybe that's why I Do better away from my old town. I can tell them that i'm not from around here and ask where's good to go, but in my own town, i'm like 'hi!', they look at me, and then i'm in my head, wondering what I should say next.

Anyway, just an update. I want to keep this journal alive. Nearly 2 months down with 10 more to go to achieve the 'target' of 1 lay!!

I'm still alive.

I did go out on Friday and Saturday but it was the first time in ages where I made ZERO approaches.

Partly because I was just feeling low on confidence and as well as having a couple of very noticable, large spots come up on my face. That's all I need!

But also partly because of that thread on here:
natural-game/natural-and-here-how-get-w ... 01152.html

where he says not too cold approach and let the DTF girls come to you. I thought it couldn't hurt!

So, i just concentrated on having fun with all of my friends. There was a big group of us and I hadn't see some of them in like 6 months so were were just having a really good time.. If it was true that girls approach guys who are having fun, laughing etc, then it would have happened to me that night, but it didn't!!
Zero girls approached me

Anyway, it's my birthday soon so will likely be going back to the town where I nearly got laid in one of more recent field reports. We'll see if it was a one off, or if it's my lucky town!

At least being from another town gives me a kind of opener that can lead to a conversation. I still really don't usually know what to say after I open so maybe that's why I Do better away from my old town. I can tell them that i'm not from around here and ask where's good to go, but in my own town, i'm like 'hi!', they look at me, and then i'm in my head, wondering what I should say next.

Anyway, just an update. I want to keep this journal alive. Nearly 2 months down with 10 more to go to achieve the 'target' of 1 lay!!

Will get back too actually approaching

Not that I advocate doing nothing and waiting for women to fall into your lap, but 1 trial is hardly enough to dismiss a theory.

Besides, the bigger the group the higher the intimidation score.

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Yeah, you're right to be fair. There's no statistical significance in one sample.

However, one thing I would say is that for a long time, before I'd heard of 'game', the ONLY thing I did on nights out was have fun and spend all night laughing with my friends. (I had a big group of friends who'd I'd known since I was like 5, and we're all still friends some 2-3 decades later). Approaching a girl was the last thing on my mind and I almost never got approached by girls.

But then, as you say, it could the the 'big group' (there was always like 5-10 of us) intimidation factor.

Either way, my instincts tell me that I need to approach to give myself at least a 1 in a million shot of getting laid in the next few years. (even if teh 'just have fun and they will come' concept is true)

Maybe that concept only really applies to US girls, since they are like 10x more social and friendly with strangers, compared to UK girls.

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Someone sent me a few products this week. A valentinho Kohen product and one by JulienRSD. I just want to watch infields to see if I can spot any 'patterns' in exactly how they manage to 'hook' a girl after they open and how they avoid asking the boring questions and getting into a boring conversation.

Are they actually just using little 'routines'? - Or maybe they are all improvised fun convesation starters, but there is some sort of logical patterns/structures which gives them the words to say / idea of what to say

I'll watch them this week before I hopefully head out on Saturday

This is a topic you could work on. It's called self-limiting beliefs. As long as you're not from the Middle East, culture is not an issue.
I've visited multiple countries in Europe and there's very little difference in how people respond. UK included.
Amsterdam is a particularly friendly place though.
Just keep in mind that some if not most of those videos are fake.
I personally don't know what they do. RSD is like a cult in my eyes, I don't hold much respect for them.
You really don't need patterns and routines. You need to develop a natural sense of conversation. Which you already have, because you use it daily with your friends.
Try transcending that into conversation with strangers. It feels unnatural at first but it's the fastest way to connect with people and get them comfortable around you.

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Yeah, I know that it shouldn't be an excuse because i'm sure there are ugly guys in the UK getting laid! But I've been to the US 4 times, and each time I was amazed at how friendly/approachable people were in comparison. (i've been too Amsterdaam, too )

But whatever, I live where I live, so I just have to suck it up!

I find it fine with people I know. In fact, in my group, i'm often the person to start conversations when everyone else is quiet. I might mention bring up a funny SHARED memory. I might ask about how their parents are, or ask about a MUTUAL friend, or throw the idea of a SHARED hliday out there. But can you see how these are all things that wouldn't really fly with a stranger.

After I open, i'm aware that I SHOULDN'T be asking the 'typical guy' questions and that I need to be 'fun' so that she doesn't leave after 30 seconds, but despite about 500 approaches, 8 pickup books, and 3 'programs', I don't feel i've really gotten any better, and still do no better than my AFC friends who haven't even heard of 'game'.

The only time I can sometimes get a fun interaction going off the bat, is if I open in some sort of weird routine way (such as opening by pretending to be the girls blind date which I did on my only ever SNL)

Anyway, I hope to have another Field Report here, soonish

If you approach regularly and keep improving, you will have a far more than 1 in a million chance in getting laid.
I genuinely don't believe that there is any significant difference between US and UK women.
Use material sparingly. Don't get too caught up on what others do in "products" as there is a chance that part of it is scripted. In addition, it's easy to get so caught up with "in-field" product that you don't concentrate on what is essential - your vibe, demanour, attitude, body language and facial expresion, and the way you carry yourself.

What is interesting about YOU? What would a girl be interested in with YOU? What are some of your strong points as a person and with your experiences? Understand your strengths and try to focus interactions on your strong points

was in a different town to my usual town where USUALLY, I tend to get better results as the girls seem to be a little less hostile, but last night was tough and it felt more like being in my home town with the bitch shields of lots of the girls.

I've recently been reading Mystery Method on the advice of some people. I've read basically every other pickup book known to man, but some people suggested that it might help me to link certain things in my head better.

I don't really want to be a routine monkey, but i'd be willing to do anything if it got me laid, lol.
Anyway...

Approach 1

I walk out of the bathroom just as another girl walks out at the same time. I look at her and say''Hey! two seconds''. She's like 'yeah?' and stops. I start to tell her that I don't live here, and just as I start, another girl walks out of the girls bathroom and says ''Leave her alone! She's my sister and she's not interested!'' and grabs her by the arm. Then 2 more of her friends also walk out (They'd all been in the bathroom together like girls do) and they just all walked away giggling.

Approach 2

2 young girls are laughing and kind of dancing around in the pub. Not a club so they kind of stand out. I walk up too them and smile and say ''You guys know how to party!'' They're like ''we know!''. I say ''what are you celebrating?''. They say ''We've got boyfriends''. I smile and say ''That's what you're celebrating? Congrats, I guess!!'' They laugh but kind of turn their backs

Approach 3

Different bar. A girl is dancing on the dancefloor. She's reasonably hot but looks like she needs a good shower. Looks a little bit 'rough'. I just grab her hand and spin her around. She complies. I ask her name and where she's from. It turns out she's from my hometown (that explains the 'rough' look!) We chat a little bit, but it's more of a friendly chat. I'm not really sure how to escalate in the moment. Don't really want to just blurt out ''Anyway, you're hot'' kind of thing. At this point, my friends want to go too a different bar anyway so I say goodbye

Approach 4

In more of a club/bar now. I see a super hot teenager just about to walk past me (don't forget i'm 29). I kind of double take, and I think she notices. I decide to try a more direct approach. I say ''hey! You just made me hurt my own neck as I spun it around to look at you! You're hot!''. She laughed and said ''that's a good one!'' but she didn't stick around for me to even follow up. She kind of never stopped walking

Approach 5

There's a woman dancing kind of close to me. She's decent looking,but I can tell she's older. I'm obsessed with young girls personally. I open her and say ''who are you?''. She is immediately somewhat receptive. We go through all of the usual 'where are you from, how old are you bla bla bla stuff''. All teh while i'm slowly ramping up the touch. Her friend comes over and tries to cock block a little. I take some risks here since I don't really care about this girl since she's 39 and I like girls who are 18 (in fact, 16 is legal here). So I kind of start negging her friend a bit and then as the friend looked offended I grabbed her and laughed. I kind of got her 'on side' a little bit, and then I pulled the girl towards me a bit and then leant against the wall. Then I put one of my feet on the wall so that my knee was kind of in between this girls legs and then rocked back and forth a bit so that my thigh kind of rubbed her pussy. Put her into a bit of a trance. For a second I almost tried to finger her which is a stupid stupid move, but I think at some point alcohol can make you forget certain rules! She was like ''I'm not that kind of girl'' but still didn't leave me. Then we started making out. Her friend wanted to leave a little after this. I didn't really think about somehow trying to get back to her place. I just don't find older girls all that hot. She kept saying ''do you want my number!!?''. I took it just for the sake of it.

Approach 6

I'm on the way out of the club now. It's late. There's a hot girl who looks about 18 with blonde wavy hair and she's dressed up in lke thigh high socks and stuff. I walk to her and say ''You are the funkiest looking girl I've seen all night'' and smile. But I can tell straight away that she's got an attitude and she just kind of repeats my opener as a question ''I'm the funkiest person you've seen all night?'' but her 'vibe' is hostile. Her tone and body language suggest she's bored of being hit on/spoke too by strangers. I'm like ''Yeah! You look like you belong in a punk band''. She says 'OK' and then looks at me in a way to suggest ''You can go away now'' lol. I consider trying to somehow plough on and see if I can somehow get her to smile, but I just can't be bothered at this point. Feels like a fools errand.

Thoughts: Fairly rough night, really. I done lots of 'good stuff' in terms of game with the old girl. I was making her laugh lots and was being playful, BUT, I think it's one of those things that other guys do where they attribute their success to their 'game' when really, she was just into them straight away (usually from their looks). I could have maybe just been a boring fuck, but since she's old and maybe found me somewhat hot and liked the attention, she might still have made out with me. Kind of like it's only ever POSSIBLE to actually game someone when they are blatantly into you from the start.

And being shot down very fast by all of the hot teen girls sucked. I'ts the only reason I do this!!

Hopefully going out for a midweek session this week, so possibly another FR on route, soon...

Birthday today. Birthday wish was to get laid! Help me, Superman!!

PS - I'm investigating the idea of medication in order to experiment. My GP will give me anxiety meds if I sk him too. If I was able to eliminate anxiety and outcome dependence, then presumably I could eliminate 'inner game' as the reason for my failures/instant rejections.

I also keep hearing stories about people who started getting laid when they started taking certain 'party pills' (I won't elaborate as not sure about forum rules). Interesting, though!