Steroids aren't testosterone. They mimic testosterone for the specific purpose of building muscle.

They are illegal due to the host of negative consequences of taking them, as well as because they can create an unfair playing field in sports.


Now, serious question:

Have you actually tried anything else? Like, the thousands of pages of tips, techniques and game articles available? Advice about how to actually talk to women? Or even just, you know, working out to get stronger naturally?

Also, you do know that steroids aren't magic right? If you've been too lazy to lift weights, you would actually still need to lift weights if you did get steroids. So it won't work. It'll just shrink your balls, give you boobs, and ruin your ability to actually have sex.

Not to fail to mention steroids will fuck up your brain. Your mood WILL be affected.

If steroids are only "mimic", why serum test level is increased in anabolic steroid users?

Low testosterone is the biggest bullshit I have ever heard. Unless a doctor has diagnosed you with a severe imbalance of hormones, you're either acting weird or not approaching women. Take the OP for instance, who the hell keeps track up to 850? I stop counting sets on any given time after...maybe five?

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But, I have seen some research on the internet about this.

High testostorone men have more attractive faces.

Also, when women ovulating, eostrogen increases, and their faces become more symmetrical and attractive. There is a research about this.

I have also read many posts about steroid cycle.

Many men said that, while on steroid cycle, women attention increased very much. They can get laid while on steroid cycle but not without steroids.

These are all coencidence ?

By the way I have also low testostorone symtomps,

1-) Low muscle mass : I tried to workout 4-5 months and nothing happened. I became skinny fat. I am 5 Foot 9". And I became 165-170 Lbs with %20 Bodyfat, with gut and good chest but no arms. I had only 13" flexed biceps.

2-) Erection problems : I have always had erection problems. I always had high sex drive but erection problems.

3-) Depressed mood : I am always unhappy.

4-) Feeling of tired : I always feel exhausted. I need 10 hours of sleep everyday. I am always sleepy and in photos I look like corpse.

5-) Facial Hair like pubes : I can grow facial hair but it is disguisting. It looks like pubic hair.

So I think 450 Ng / Dl is not enough for me. Some guys have naturally 1200 Ng / Dl and I think they are very lucky. They are both naturally strong, muscular and attractive.

I also read that, in males, testosterone is very important on cognitive and speaking skills. So I think high testostorone males have much better game due to this.

I have also low speaking skills. So maybe thats why I got rejected many many times.

By the way, my internet dating succsess is zero. I have never met any girl from internet. NEVER. Girls always reject me on online dating sites. It is impossible for me to get a girl from online.

What kind of workout were you doing? Specifically...

Before ovulating:


After ovulating:


More seriously: if you think you got hormonal issues (which I don't think you have: 20% of the guys your age have a lower level than you), go see a physician. And if you want to understand how testosterone work, start reading serious scientific articles instead of internet BS. For instance, people being more aggressive after a few days of abstinence, having more "killer instinct" to f-close, is not due to a high level of testosterone, but because of sexual tension and the need to get a lay, the same way a heroin addict would get aggressive when being deprived of his shot for too long.

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Okay well doing EVERYTHING you can to make your testosterone LOWER isn't doing you much good! What the fuck?

Start squatting and deadlifting. That's savage shit. Get in touch with your primal instincts and the testosterone will start pumping.

I bet you're one of those pussies who bounces around on ab machines and works your biceps at the gym... Then you go eat some sour gummie worms, a twix bar, and a Gatorade and wonder why the protein shake isn't helping you get big.

The gym is a place where you can get your t levels up.... Anyone who argues that, I challenge you to come to the gym with me. My warm up would most likely kill/seriously hospitalize your average 20 some year old male.

You need to start training as if you were training for a fucking WAR!! Not like you're training for the 5 pm women's work out class upstairs. Train like a fucking man and you'll become one.

There's no reason to blame science for you acting like a pussy.

(Tough love)

Out of curiosity what is your warm up routine?

its' usually different every day. So it depends on when you catch me.

Yesterday was back day..... My warm up was squatting 275 for 2 sets of 15. Sometimes I'll go 8- 3 minute rounds with the heavy bag with 1 minute of jump rope in between rounds.

Usually it consists of some type of squats though. I'll go through weeks at a time where I'll squat every day. There isn't a single better exercise for you out there. It's as savage as you can get. #EVERYDAYISLEGDAY

My way of training is like training for a battle. I'm all about functional strength and mobility. BUT at the same time... I have a body building style of work out structure incorporated. It works for me lol I make people self conscious about not going to the gym now but I'm not just all looks. I'm actually strong as fuck. It's kinda funny.

I'll be honest, I'm realizing most guys can't even make it through my foam roller/stretch session before I get warmed up. I use the weights most people can't even get off the rack.

And what Maj does at the gym is completely irrelevant for the conversation at hand. "Testosterone" is a nice way to claim you're doing nothing wrong, and the OP is not practicing actual pickup. It's no better than a guy saying he can only approach women when drinking.

The OP is fucked, like someone said before he is just looking for affirmations so he can start dosing with fucking drugs that will mess with his body and mind because he'd rather look for a pill than learn to interact with a member of the opposite sex.

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I've been training a while. My physique looks better than the vast majority of guys on gear. Ya I have really good genetics but the fact remains I train like a mofo to get this way. In and out of the gym I am asked almost daily what I am taking - I catch girls eye fucking my physique all the time.

Only time I'd suggest gear is 1) you're competing, 2) you've hit the genetic ceiling and are curious to see how muich you can gain past that.

All the rest, the gains you make on gear are fleeting. They go away once you're off.


I 2nd hitting legs hard. It increases the release of HGH in your system. In fact, when I hit legs as hard as I do the rest of my body grows.

I'm 40 now. I look like I am in my late 20s, in fact 20 y.o's assume I am one of their cohorts due to my youthful appearance. I've never abused drugs or alcohol and have been training pretty much all my life. I don't have so much as a single wrinkle on my face. My body, most guys in their 20s would kill for. I can attest to the powerful affects working out has on both body and mind. The perseverance, dedication, and constant retooling to stay motivated are transferable virtues you can apply to any aspect of your life.

Wrong. Testosterone is a steroid and is the base of all steroid cycles. Yes most steroids are derivatives of testoterone like DHT, but Testoterone is a steroid. Every cycle a BB is on has testosterone in it.

Also the thought that all steroids make you fucked up in the head comes from people who have never tried the sauce before. The only steroid that fucks you up in the head is Tren ( which is a horse/cow steroid btw). Do not take tren if you want to be a social person. Testosterone will make you a little emotional if you dont take a estrogen blocker to block the estrogen conversion of Testosterone so it is criticial to take an estrogen blocker. DHT derived steroids like masteron , var, winine, etc will not mess you up in the head.

But I would stick to Testosterone only cycle if you try it. It will certainly make girls that youve fucked already want to fuck you again. The more abundance of girls you have wanting to fuck you the more other hotter girls can sense this and want to fuck you.

That's bad logic. Testosterone may be a steroid, but that does not mean steroids are testosterone. For comparison, beer is a liquid but that doesn't mean all liquids are beer.