You . . . a newbie? You've been around since the beginning of the forum . . .

1. I'm not sure why you WANT to appear congruent to the previous image she had of you. I'd let her see the positive changes in you. It would intrigue her more. Now you know how to turn on and turn up her attraction more than you did before, so use that. It will send her mind spinning . . . "he's not like he used to be . . . he's . . . somehow . . . better"

2. "I don't just buy ice cream for any girl that begs for it." If she keeps begging . . . "what do I get for this?" And I PERSONALLY wouldn't take anything less than a kiss. On the mouth. Since she's wanting money. If that's a no go . . . then the money stays in my pocket. And no, that's not needy, that's me staying in control. Of course, if it's me, I'd also qualify the kiss itself. If it's not good, then she still doesn't get the treat.

3. Heck yeah! At least in my area. If it's nice outside, go for an outside one. Otherwise go for an inside one. Mini-golf is always fun. Laughter, kino, cheap, busting her balls, etc.

I work at a lab fixing all the equipment in the facility so I walk around all over the place. There's this HB8 and HB8.5 that hangs around together in their department all day, and it's pretty crowded. The 3 of us are able to talk sometimes when I'm fixing shit in their department, and HB8 wants to hook me up with her sister who is also an HB8. But she never actually makes a date or anything. Is there anything I can do to speed things up, I'm tired of waiting. The next time I go over there to fix something, I want to be able to get numbers or set up a day 2 or something! Can you think up of something smooth for me to say? Or at least the right mindset when it comes up? Thanks

Good question. What I would suggest is to let the 8 know, next time she brings it up, "you know, I don't normally hang around people that don't keep their word." Make sure you have good EC when you make the statement. Dont just throw it out while you're looking at something else. Depending on her response, or lack of, you can move into . . .
"Or is it secretly you that wants to hook up with me, but you're too afraid to ask."
"I need her number so I can actually talk to her when I have a chance to, to make sure she's a real person and not just in your mind."
"If she's this exciting, me and her need to get together, because the comination of the two of us would be like dynamite (or w/e explosive you want to use). In other words, quit blocking her from having a good time with me." Said with a smile.

Pick which of those three statements would be most effective in the moment. Let me know how it goes.

Thanks, man, but I don't really want to wait until she brings it up again, and at the same time I don't want to come off needy, if you understand what I mean. Usually, I'd be able to come up with a way to move the conversation towards her sister, but I'm suffering through some kind of social block. I can't think up of smooth lines. Help again?

BTW HB8.5 has a boyfriend, but I still would be able to pull of the "or do you secretly want to hook up with me" line.

Whether she has a b/f or not doesn't matter for the statement that you make. If you are able to steer the convo to that subject, and it's a normal thing to do it that way, then fine, but you don't want to do that all the time either, or you WILL come across needy and desperate.

So L.A. I'm wondering if you have any advice on being able to pick-up girls in highschool that you may already know. I have read some of the books but they're mostly geared towards meeting new people and having the possibility of never seeing them again.....in highschool it's different.....please help?

Welcome to the forum WowMom. Well, yes, it is different in HS. I'm not one of the forum "experts" in that area, but I can give you some advice. Beyond that, we have a report in the downloads section of the PMZ of this forum that was written by a high schooler for high schoolers.

In HS it's all about rep. If you have a good rep already, you're good to go. If you don't, you'll have to work to build one. Beyond that, the same attraction switches still apply. And, the attraction switches will actually help you to build a good rep too, if used properly.

1. Leader of men
2. Preselected by women (even if those girls are just friends)
3. Wiling to Emote (show SOME emotion)
4. Protector of Loved Ones
Now, you flip those switches, especially the first two in HS, and start teasing the girls, tease them a lot, not being rude, but playfully, and you'll be on your way to picking some up. Also, do not leave out kino while building attraction and comfort.

Hey Tripp. I saw your reply to my first topic so I thought I'd ask my specific question here. Hopefully you can help.

I'm 19 and look 18 or 19. So when I go to the malls for day time practice I sometimes get comments about looks or age as many of the women there are 20s that I sarge. Any type of negg'ing on my looks are easy to counter and I have some memorized lines for that.

But what about age? Should I just say I'm 19? I don't know it seemed to turn off the HB7 in her mid 20s that asked me that. Of course she could have also just gotten turned off since I had run out of things to say and was getting nervous. So overall what should I do about any age questions and that sort of thing?

Thanks.

I am going to use the cologne opener as my first opener to work on. So i spray 2 colognes on my rists and go up to a set and ask their opinions on which one smells better. Would it be alright to say my little sister bought me this one as a coming home present(and if they were to ask where i came back from i can say europe, Which is true that would start a conversation{or would that be bragging} and the other one i usually use. Any advice on if this one is alright how i alterd it.

Ok, first of all, your age is only a factor in YOUR mind, even if they do ask your age. A couple of suggestions are, "what age do you want me to be" or "uh uh, that's a personal question and you haven't earned personal answers yet" or "geez, quit moving so fast". You know, something that's basically gonna throw her off balance. Something NOT every other guy would say. As I said, the age factor is actually only in your own mind, even if she does ask you the question. It's a normal question to ask, but realize that most girls don't care so much IF they like YOU to begin with.

Yes, actually it's great how you're planning to use it. No, it's not bragging IF THEY ASK you. However, if they don't pick up on the "coming home" thing, DON'T offer the info about Europe. THEN it would be bragging. Other than that, roll with it man.

I was wondering how you came over your first AA when opening. Any advice from experience to a new PUA i really want to do some game this Spring Break since i really havent been sarging yet. I have really learned a lot and have built a lot of confidence since joining the site, still some words of wisdom would help.

The 3 second rule is what helped me at first, because when I started out, I was like every other AFC that was afraid to just walk up and talk to a girl. So, I had to abide by the three second rule.

Now, at times I open right away, at times I don't, but I don't have a problem opening anymore, but that's what I had to do at first.

First, if a girl shit tests w/ the line "you're being mean" what do think of answering "Nah, I'm just playing hard to get". I am not sure if that would work because it is too honest. But at the same time, it is sort of a neg and sort of cat-string theory. How do you think a women would react? (That question may be better for zip, oops).
My main questions came from last night, my first official night out in Columbia. A great time, but it could have been more. Anyway, at the bar, I was telling great stories, doing my best to DHV, going w/ the flow feeling cool and comfortable. I was with two HBs ( both 7.5-8 ). Walking around I got in a lot of kino but never did it feel awkward. The problem is when I was being driven home. The mood felt great, and the night did not have to end. I called back after being dropped off, being alpha about keeping the party going etc... The girl flaked and I hung up on her. Looking back, I knew I could have #-closed, at least, but I was really unsure of how to break through from "We are just here to have fun" mood of the night, to something more serious. I mean how would go about escalating the interest in girls so they are more receptive to intimacy? Honestly, I felt that there was a wall in front of me, I just needed a few words, to put the night going in that direction. How would you go about convincing a girl that the night should not end, that it is in her best interest to keep hanging out w/ you? Honestly, the way the night was, keeping it going could have resulted in big things for me. I took it for what it was worth, but man, it's hard not to think of the possibilities.

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I have no problem answering, lol. Actually, that answer would be a good one. There's nothing wrong with being honest, IF you have the confidence to back it up. And, have a smile to back it up too. It IS cat-string theory. As far as how the woman would react, if you use it in a push/pull manner, she would most likely find it cocky and playful, which is good. Ok, to escalate, especially if she's ACCEPTING of the kino and sexual frame, you push. You push more kino, you push the frame even more sexually. That will naturally lead to kiss closes, and if she's going to kiss you, you should have no problem getting the number.

The key is in continuing to push the boundaries. If you push too far, she will let you know, so you back up, temporarily. But, you don't know where her line is UNTIL you push and find out.

You just have to keep pushing that line until, and even IF she lets you know to stop. I know it's hard, and it takes guts, but that's what you have to do. Besides, the girl will LOVE it that you HAVE the guts to push forward. And, if the convo is going that way, you can even come right out and tell her what you have in mind. Just make sure you have the confidence to back up what you say, you do it seductively, and the mood is right between you two.