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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:18 am 
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I focus on two different muscle groupings, chest and arms. Because the weights are free, I have to use muscles to stabablize them as I lift which works other areas at the same time (Sholders, forearms, back)

Typical workout session for me:

Arms:
Seated Arm Curls, Overhead Extentions, Standing Curls
Chest: Bench Dumbbell Press, Dumbell Flies, Military Press

where are the leg workouts? or back workout? a bigger back gives you more of a V-taper, which is much more visually appealing then having big biceps and small legs. you dont want to look like johnny bravo. please dont give advice in a field you dont know :D

In between each set rest period, I would do crunches.

Because the dumb bells were light in wieght, I would do many reps (started at 10, went to 15, then 20, finally got to 25 for three sets. At this point I went to four sets). These sets were not slow. I pounded them out as quickly as I could control them. Change your exercises every six weeks.

as soon as you pass 15 reps for an exercise you are no longer in the functional strength or hypertrophy range, you are in the endurance range. look at military people for example. they can do pushups galore, but put them on a bench press and most will struggle to do their own weight. again, this is not the way to go about building muscle.


I always work out in the morning before I go to work. I start it before I really wake up. It is harder to not do them everyday. I do not have a chance to think of excuses. I do this every other day.

Sun: Arms
Tuesday: Chest
Thursday: Arms

Take the weekend off

Sun: Chest
Tuesday: Arms
Thursday: Chest

please, for the love of all things holy, do NOT do this routine. you are focusing on 15-20% of your bodys muscle, while ignoring the other 80%.

Here is a break down of calories per gram of food.
4 cal/gram protein
4 cal/gram carbs
8 cal/gram fat
fat is actually 9 cal/gram

I do not take pills or other supplements besides protein shakes. You should consume about 200 grams of protien a day. It can be hard at times to reach this without the help of a shake or two. I even drink a protein shake before I go to bed on a workout day.

200g a day is way past excessive, especially for someone who barely works 20% of his total body muscle. a high carb meal post workout is just as important as protein is. for 95% of lifters, .6-.8g protein/lb bodyweight is sufficient. anything more and you piss it out as nitrogren.


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to the OP...do yourself a favor and get a membership to a gym. do a full body routine (this is a GREAT way to start: http://www.wannabebig.com/article.php?articleid=25) and bust your ass in the gym.

get your diet on track (read: cut out ice cream, soda, excessive salt, and excessive alcohol use. eat less fat and more carbs/protein, and do NOT try to lose too much weight at one time, i GUARANTEE you will gain it back within the year. )


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where are the leg workouts? or back workout? a bigger back gives you more of a V-taper, which is much more visually appealing then having big biceps and small legs. you dont want to look like johnny bravo. please dont give advice in a field you dont know

as soon as you pass 15 reps for an exercise you are no longer in the functional strength or hypertrophy range, you are in the endurance range. look at military people for example. they can do pushups galore, but put them on a bench press and most will struggle to do their own weight. again, this is not the way to go about building muscle.

I guess you missed this part.

"I am not big. It was never my goal. " Remember that the original poster wanted to lose weight. This is how I did it. You are wrong about the 20%. I could go through the list of muscles I work out but not worth the time.

You are right about the 9 cal/gram fat. I stand corrected.

At 4 cal/gram of protien, 200 grams a day = 800 calories. If this is all I consumed then you statement would be more pertainent. As such, I consume way more. These other calories are from fat and carbs. Also, if I do not eat a meal high in carbs after a workout, I am tired. So I do.

But again, the goal in all of this was to lose wieght. I hate cardio and doing MY WORKOUT has helped me achieve it. So it really doesnt matter what you say. :D

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where are the leg workouts? or back workout? a bigger back gives you more of a V-taper, which is much more visually appealing then having big biceps and small legs. you dont want to look like johnny bravo. please dont give advice in a field you dont know

as soon as you pass 15 reps for an exercise you are no longer in the functional strength or hypertrophy range, you are in the endurance range. look at military people for example. they can do pushups galore, but put them on a bench press and most will struggle to do their own weight. again, this is not the way to go about building muscle.

I guess you missed this part.

"I am not big. It was never my goal. " Remember that the original poster wanted to lose weight. This is how I did it. You are wrong about the 20%. I could go through the list of muscles I work out but not worth the time.

You are right about the 9 cal/gram fat. I stand corrected.

At 4 cal/gram of protien, 200 grams a day = 800 calories. If this is all I consumed then you statement would be more pertainent. As such, I consume way more. These other calories are from fat and carbs. Also, if I do not eat a meal high in carbs after a workout, I am tired. So I do.

But again, the goal in all of this was to lose wieght. I hate cardio and doing MY WORKOUT has helped me achieve it. So it really doesnt matter what you say. :D
you listed the muscles you work out: chest and arms

any workout that consists of chest and arms is not only pathetic (and yes, it IS less then 20% of your muscle mass, you do know your back and legs are covered in muscle, all of which you neglect?.

again, there are MUCH more efficient ways of working out then what you are doing. doing chest and arms alone proves that you dont know what they are.

and just to prove im right...heres a post from a guy in a similar situation.
http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=95535

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I am in my Mid 20's and just now getting in the best shape of my life. Growing up overweight put a huge chip on my shoulder. Also, when I did loose the weight I still had confidence issues, and felt like a fat kid who couldnt get girls even when they did like me. I say start Sarging now, so by the time you're where you want to be, your mind will be far beyond your body.

If you want some advice, tryto cut charbs to only meals before 3:00. Do cardio and lift weights. lifting will tone you up and keep your metablism running throughout the day. Just stay the course, and stay positive. Your biggest enemy will be you. :D


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hey bro , even though My name is MAGIC J I have a quiet experience in WORKING OUT too ..... I use to be a counselor at 24hr fitness company, not only that , but also from myself, I use alot plans, and constantly improving to see which worked well and not well. I can lose from 5 -10 lb in 2 week EASYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.

So if you need help . PM me with ur number and all so I can help u on da phone.


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dnt no if anyones sed this coz i never checked but do what i do...go to the gym n sarge women there..n if they follow u around it give u tht extra push 2 impresss them when there watchin by exercisin well but dont over do i by liftin reli heavy weighs aint good dude

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I just wanted to add my two cents to weight loss. There is a new study out that says calcium supplements increase the body's metabolism. You can read more about it here. Normally milk is high is fat, and will make you gain weight, but drinking non fat milk, will very highly increase your metabolism rate. You can read more about it here.
http://www.webmd.com/news/20000417/calcium-low-fat-diet

This isn't the article I read precisely, so there might be some things I read that aren't in this article, so I suggest you try to google it and learn everything you can about it. But basically milk is better than a calcium supplement, because of the other vitamins and minerals inside of it. I read an article of the exact science to why the calcium supplement works, but I couldn't find it again. The article I read, said calcium regulates a hormone your body produces, and whenever there is a lot of calcium, it produces more of the hormone, and the hormone is a vital part of metabolism.
I got class in a little bit, so I didn't have time to check my facts, so some of them might be wrong, (like how exactly it works) but not the important ones, like the fact that calcium will increase your metabolism through hormone regulation.

The article I read, also said it specifically targets the midsection. Which isn't stated in this one.


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Okay so basically I'm fat and I have recently started to work out, and I was wondering should I still sarge as a fat ass or wait till i lose some pounds?
Also any tips diet wise would be helpful I have started swimming regularly.
I didnt really read the other posts, but here is my take on it.

Sarge now! If you can do it as a fat guy imagine how much easier it will be in shape.

As for diet, dont eat less. I know sounds counter intuitive...let me refraise that, eat more frequently, but less in each portion...much less in each portion. Pick obvious healthy choices. The reason for my advice is this will help keep you consistantly "full" without being over stuffed, which in turn will help stablize your metabolisim.

When you eat less frequently in any size portion your body slows down metabolism and you dont want that. Eating more frequently but in smaller portions will help get your metabolism going strong and also will keep you from eating because your hungry, while still providing you the calories needed for your workouts.

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Okay so basically I'm fat and I have recently started to work out, and I was wondering should I still sarge as a fat ass or wait till i lose some pounds?
Also any tips diet wise would be helpful I have started swimming regularly.
I didnt really read the other posts, but here is my take on it.

Sarge now! If you can do it as a fat guy imagine how much easier it will be in shape.

As for diet, dont eat less. I know sounds counter intuitive...let me refraise that, eat more frequently, but less in each portion...much less in each portion. Pick obvious healthy choices. The reason for my advice is this will help keep you consistantly "full" without being over stuffed, which in turn will help stablize your metabolisim.

When you eat less frequently in any size portion your body slows down metabolism and you dont want that. Eating more frequently but in smaller portions will help get your metabolism going strong and also will keep you from eating because your hungry, while still providing you the calories needed for your workouts.

Hope this helps.
I concur.... :wink:

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Dude go sarge now size and looks dont matter as much as inner game if you figure out your inner game you working out will just be a bonus and help you out even more in the end.. good luck


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For loosing weight or any type diet for that matter...Chewing gum is your best friend when you aren't at home and able to brush your teeth. As soon as you have eaten your assigned portion, pop a piece in or go and brush your teeth immediately. It gives you that "I just brushed so I don't want to eat anything else" feeling. Hope this helps!!! Happy Hunting Comrades...-Shreder


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Okay so basically I'm fat and I have recently started to work out, and I was wondering should I still sarge as a fat ass or wait till i lose some pounds?
Also any tips diet wise would be helpful I have started swimming regularly.
Here's the only thing I have to say . . . Do you know HOW popular Joe D from VH1's The Pick Up Artist?!!! He's a big guy and he's comfortable enough with his weight to go sarge. It's not about your size. It's about your confidence! So GO HAVE FUN!!! :D

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I hope he has at least lost some weight by now, this thread is almost a year old.

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