ill anwsr you first hobbit, not at all i do some pua tactics and others i dont i was merely posting a blog on DHV and making people think what it really is cause im sure most guys just follow what they read and at times dont question and i was just posting out of curiosity seeing what others thought, and then continued to stat my point boldly so that i can see how other defend there case,

ive already admitted 2 or 3 times that i believe they have very valid points so before you start begging the question know the facts please, but i do appreciate yor insight..and for your info ive been in the game for 6 years, but i dont follow pua to an exact science i more so follow a few things i feel our best and thne add in parts that are natual...basically natural game.......

and now on to lee im not even gonna take the time to read what you wrote lee im only gonna say most guys just follow pua methods and dont at times come to question the material.....i only posted something on DHV to post my comments and to make others think a bit on what it truly is and i got some pretty good posts i must say, one guy had a pretty in lenghted detail description of it...and he proved to me some very valid points....

now i can post my comments as much as i want, i gave credit saying they had valid points and in no way did i say these are my own ideas, im not trying to get people to think the way i think...i only posted the blog seeing why DHV and magic tricks go toghther cause i was a bit confused on the subject and had seen then that people had good descriptions on why it can be that...

...i dont follow most pua subjects and instead only follow one;s i feel valid with natural game such as neg, time restraint, a little kino and so on but i dont go into vast detail on pick as the pua's do i find it easier to impliment a few key aspects and then put it into natural gaming ways......

and again ask questions not assumptions on what i mean....i never was sayign i invented DHV, and i never said they were wrong,

you need to work on that assuming thing and maybe next time ask

savior waht do you mean im confused??

one sentence that took and id explain what i was trying to do with that post and we could of avoided our 2nd argument

but i do appreciate your look out of the site its your job and the guys who post here.....just next time question me and id gladly explain

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Perhaps you can just post stuff in a manner that is actually clear and doesn't need questioning as decent contributors do. I love how you try to make yourself sound all smart by mentioning "begging the question" when that exact fallacy is apparent all throughout what you say.

I don't bother to ask what you mean when what you say leads me to believe something else. That's not my fault, that's YOUR fault for not being clear, so don't get on my case for it, you just need to learn how to express yourself better. If you knew anything about NLP you might be familiar with the concept of "Meaning isn't what you intend, but what the other person interprets." I'm not the only one interpreting what you're saying "wrong" so the fault lies with you, not us, get off your high horse and take responsibility instead of blaming us.

If you're not even going to do me the courtesy of reading my responses to your ill thought out and clumsily worded arguments, then I see no value in your posts and perhaps they'll just start being locked or deleted because you're not contributing anything of worth to the forum and instead are only reducing the value of it. We've recently been getting a lot more attention in the community and I've been hearing a lot of comments about the lack of quality posting, so if you can't be bothered to contribute anything worthwhile, then just don't bother posting. This place deserves better, as do the memebers that actually contribute worthwhile material.

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To me DHV means showing her some side of me which makes her value me higher/think of me in more positive light (with "higher/positive" I mean better mating material )... That can be very different things for different girls. Obviously some are more common than others, but it's really down to understanding the girl... what is a DHV to one can be a DLV to another.

To me that's integrated in my way of thinking of DHV... I'm simply trying to figure out what sides of me she'll be most attracted to, and how to show them in a good way.

Basically my mindset is: Okey, I KNOW I'm a great person. How do I make her see it?

hey! thanks for your insight on DHV dronten
that was a really great post

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