Jeez man the chick was right...you must have been super clingy cause you can't just say fuck it. Way too much thought on a dead end. Go hang with her if you want as friend and proceed like normal if you want it that badly.

Bad sex.

And four or five dates to the f-close is way too long.



99% of guys are exactly this. They get a whiff of pussy and become emotionally uncentered.


Do you see how this works? You blew her off for a long time, and she got curious.

Nooooooo!

Stop with the fucking dates, people. If you've kissed or had sex with a woman, invite her directly over to your house. This is the organic next step to a girl you've already have physical interaction with. Women are not afraid of your house, and they want sex as much as you do. What they fear are men who are not dominant, and men who hide their intentions. And they can't stand having their time wasted by men who waffle and don't get to the point.



You got friend-zoned for not leading like a dominant male.

Adiaos, muchachos.



You bored her to death with too many dates. Women want to have FUN. They want to catch a buzz, have multiple orgasms, then cuddle. Rinse, repeat. You delayed this process with incessant dinner dates. You set the tone as a nice guy ass kisser who will buy her dinners, instead of setting the tone as the bad boy exciting guy who makes her scream in bed.

Guess which one women chase? Guess which one women will hit up via text years after not even talking to the guy?

Do not contact her for a month, and game other women.

She has proven she will reach out if you give her enough space. Do just that, and when she texts you again, text her this:

You: "Hey, it's cool to hear from you. I'm watching a movie tonight at my place, you're welcome to join". If she agrees to come over, go for a passionate kiss as soon as she sets her purse down. Do anything my man,anything that is not mundane.

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Just messaged her what I want.

"but I wanna kiss you ... so have a great day!"

Yeesh, man. Your intent is spot on, but your delivery is terrible, lol.

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So there is more to the story. After what I texted her, I got this response:

She: "I kiss and do stuff with the person I am with. We can hang out if we dont do anything like that"

Me: "No! Enjoy your life. We don't hang out then"

She: "Are you mad?"


... that's what I got several hours ago, in the meanwhile I banged another girl in my truck But I don't know if I should respond anything to that.

Lol, nice work in the truck. As far as your text response:

You: "Not mad at all. I admire your loyalty. Have a good one."

Wait for her to text back, and hang out with the new girl.

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Thank you man! I don't know about the "I admire your loyalty". The thing is none of us wanted a serious relationship just yet, but what I think is shitty is the fact we went on a couple of dates and she never brings any boyfriend until a day later in her text.

The subtext of what you are saying is jealous and reactive. I am not saying that for the sake of being critical but rather in the hopes that, that helps you with your frame control so you know what is obvious from the other side of the conversation.

Trying to pretend everything is all good after showing an obvious reaction is incongruent to your previous framing.