It's likely multifactorial.

When I see a fat guy or girl, it signals to me that the person doesn't give a shit about him/herself. It also comes across as lazy and overall unhealthy. That isn't to say that you can't pull high quality women being fat, you certainly can, it will likely be a bit harder.

This question is sad and funny at the same time. It's almost like your saying that you'll get in shape only if it helps you get women, but if there's no problem you'll stay obese.

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That's why I'd suggested he buy the affection of a prostitute.

I always ask my chic friends (young, old, rich n poor, educated n low educated, pretty n the ugly ones) when we see a fuc%ing fat dude or an obese mf walking by near us. I would always ask them. Would you sleep with him and they always say...Hell No...No fuc%ing way. And then I would say to them ...yeah but he has a college degree, a career, a house n lots of money. And they would tell me. No Omar go fu%k yourself. So the answer is No..harsh it may sound..you need to lose that fat ass body suit now...a.s.a.p. not tomorrow not next week or next month....NOW. (take my advice because I too was a fat ass in my teens).

That's their initial answer and it's ego driven. That guy won't be the choice for a ons, but if he has some charm, money, and time to seduce her...that story can change.

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yup and those guys are the 1%'s.

Disagree with that percent. Watch what hot women settle for when it comes to looks when they decide to settle down. Their type that they normally go for suddenly changes. Reality and security will change their taste in men.

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Look, as with anything in life it all comes down to PROBABILITY.

A fit guy who has other virtues of value will most always win, over the unfit guy with the same attributes.

It's in our DNA, our genetic heritage if you will. Women (and men) seekout indicators of fitness in those they couple with. Sorry fat guy, you already have a strike against you before opening your mouth. Same goes for the short guy, the guy with one glass eye etc..

Is nature cruel? Perhaps. Now I am not saying fat guy, short guy, or glass eye don't have a chance...they do if they don't let their 'disability' become them. But the reality is, fit is an attractive quality BECAUSE it indicates healthy, to a large extent.

You can wrestle with this all you want, in the end women (fat, fit and anywhere in between) are always going to be more attracted to the fit guy, by default.

To some extent there will be variance from this standard depending on the girl's history. Maybe she had a lovable ex who was a bit more on the chunky side so she develops a preference for slightly chubby guys (more the exception than the rule) Again, i am speaking about probabilities.

Exaaactly I totally agree 100%. Being fat and/or obese really stinks (literally and figuratively). Losing weight and/or getting fit gets you better chances than being the opposite ten folds.

Your weight is likely not causing girls to respond to you slowly, although it surely doesn't help and may be a factor. If girls find you interesting or get value from you, they still will want to talk to you even if they don't find you attractive, so basically it can be said that if your game was better they would be hitting you up to talk but not necessarily would they want to sleep with you, they would just ''like you'', in most cases likely as a friend.

If you are overweight, I strongly suggest you purchase a gym membership, get a personal trainer package and learn how to workout/diet properly and commit to it. It can change your life.

You need to also understand that women are more influenced by status then men are, and are more forgiving about how you look, that doesn't mean they are blind but you can make up for shortcomings by projecting and highlighting strengths. As long as you develop confidence you can meet and explore relationships with women, however the more attractive in every sense you can make yourself the more opportunities you will have more often with a greater variety of women. Invest time into your body, invest time into training for an appealing career, invest time into your social life. It all matters and it all reflects on what kind of person you are. Think of your day to day habits, and really reflect on what they are, what you do every day is who you are, if you can respect that, then others can, but if you are not who you want to be, change what you do, and make it a habit and become a newer better version of yourself that you can respect.

GOOD LUCK

Once again, thank you all for your responses!
Alright. Initially this seems difficult, but what I try to do is I try to keep myself occupied with targeting other girls. It helps, I guess.

Interesting. Won't this come across as even "needier"? I feel hesitant to give it a try.

Do you really recommend doing this? I think I can agree with you but if I want to "plow" the girl, then it must be a message that contains something really interesting.

Indeed, but the particular girls who I mention here have seen me in person. I just felt a bit annoyed and bad whenever they didn't respond, and sort of wondered whether it was my being overweight that did this. Thanks for the advice, G.
Well, that's one reason, but I think the general idea is that I lack self-esteem because I see myself as fat. Really. For some reason I am not comfortable in my own skin. And this generally prevents me from being the excited, "extroverted" person I once was when I was much younger.

So women may be one factor, one influential factor at me wanting to lose weight, but overall, I'd say it's mainly about my self-confidence.

I agree wholeheartedly about the advice on me getting healthier.
I'm not interested in prostitutes or anything paid to give me what I want. I am interested in something that I get through my own effort. Also sex is not really what I am looking for in girls. It's more about me being able to approach and build or establish relationships with girls in general.
I actually asked one girl I knew if she would do me or my other taller, slimmer guy friend. Obviously she said that she wouldn't dare do it with me.

Which is ironic, because the guy who she's with now is fat, too.

So was she serious?

Thanks for the advice, though. I'll consider your recommendation on me losing weight.

Also, can anyone explain what's behind things like these?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7zm8v9reDo
Thanks pumpington. I believe this is about me getting more fit to increase my chances in general. I subscribe to this. However, would you recommend that while I'm trying to attain a more ideal weight, I practice my game? Do you think it would be worthwhile to do so, even if I haven't reached that goal yet?

Should a boxer wait until he's more muscular to begin boxing? Of course not -- you box while you develop those muscles.

To build on pumping ton's post, ask yourself, are YOU attracted to yourself?

A lot of attraction has to do with feeling good about yourself - plugging the 'holes' or insufficiencies you see in any area of your life.

Even if you're jacked, if you feel bad about yourself u'll emirate that energy and be a deterrent for women. It will come across in your talk and non-verbals such as body language.

Thanks. This makes sense to me.
Thanks for your input.

I think I have to say that I basically like what I do and how I look like, EXCEPT for my weight. I really think this weight thing is a major factor in my confidence issue. I constantly daydream about how carefree I might feel once I've reached my ideal weight.

Ah, the old nonsense of justifying things as "genetic." Moron...

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