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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:39 am 
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They will try to test you, but why even worry about it? I’m just myself 100% of the time, so woman is free to do whatever she wants.

If you’re worried about a woman testing you, it means you’re trying to put on an act around her, and you’re worried she’s going to take advantage of you and manipulate you.

If you’re only saying and doing what you want to do, her manipulating you is impossible and becomes irrelevant to the entire interaction..

People have a natural tendency to get away with whatever we can. Important thing to remember is that these girls aren’t interested in you; they’re interested in how you make them FEEL.

This is why you can be the nicest guy in the world, and she’ll tell you how much she loves and appreciate you, but the minute her ex-boyfriend who doesn’t even give a should about her calls, she will make an excuse to leave you and come running for him.

Women, in 99% of cases, aren’t with guys because they “care” about them, their with a guy because they are ADDICTED to him.

The point is, you are irrelevant, 99% of the time a woman is only focused on her own feelings, and if something’s going to make her feel good, she will pursue it.

The reason she was so distant with you was because you think she’s stupid; you think she really thought you came to a bar to talk to her about philosophy?

Girls know why guys come to bars, it’s because they want to get thought. Why didn’t you walk up to her and tell her she’s the sexiest girl you seen all night?

I know pick up “philosophy” says girls here that should all the time, but if you go to an actual bar, you’ll find guys rarely approach girls with the balls to tell them that they are actually approaching them because they’re interested in them.

The reality is, approaching her with some stupid line is what she actually does get approach with all night, and she doesn’t want to deal with that bullshit.

By approaching her and talking to her about philosophy, you’re basically telling her she’s in control of the entire frame of the conversation, then blaming her when she decides to reject you for trying to pull should her like you care about philosophy when you’re the one trying to manipulate her because you just want to fuck this girl.

And you may even try saying you didn’t want that, but if she said, “I don’t want to talk about to desecrates, let’s fuck”, would you said, “no, I really approached you because I wanted to talk about desecrates”?

You had no right to get angry at her, you approached her and said something, she doesn’t owe you anything and is free to respond however, she wants.

It sounds like you’re bitter because you approached her and said that line, and you put effort into trying to start a conversation and telling her something you thought she like to hear, and you’re angry because she blew you off.

My advice is next time try having the balls to be straightforward with her, tell her you think she’s sexy, and you want to get to know her better.
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this guy knows what he's talking about.
Over 10 years experience. I just wish anyone here could see how much I had to get played and paid to learn these lessons.

I was just like the guy wrote this post growing up, and I would never wish another guy to have to go through what I went through before I finally got sick of being played enough that I realize there is no other way to live your life.

And eventually, every guy is going to reach that conclusion, because they going to try this bullshit and get fed up, there really is no other way for it to go.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:29 am 
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Op, best way to improve your inner game, going out and sarging on other girls in order to make all these tactics to part of your character so after somepoint u do not have to worry about it if shit test comes or not. Experience has to be your key through to your inner game. Except experience, all other part of your game is in theorie. I offer to buy a book with the name How Be An Alpha Male.

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Op, best way to improve your inner game, going out and sarging on other girls in order to make all these tactics to part of your character so after somepoint u do not have to worry about it if shit test comes or not. Experience has to be your key through to your inner game. Except experience, all other part of your game is in theorie. I offer to buy a book with the name How Be An Alpha Male.
So, you're telling him to go out and use tactics. Why do you recommend that? Is his own personality not good enough that he needs a technique or line to cover it up? If he is saying and doing what HE wants to do then there's no problem, and he's a real alpha male.

Otherwise, he is thanking, "what can I say or do that she's going to find attractive?" and just replacing being a beta male with another supplicating behavior to make her want him.

A shit test means he's trying to act a certain way, and is scared that she'll start playing games back, and he needs to protect himself from being taken advantage of, but if he's being his real alpha self with this woman, how can she have any control over him whatsoever?

If he was saying and doing what he wanted to do, and not trying to please the woman like a REAL ALPHA, there would be no problem.

Again, if you say and do what you WANTED to do, and be your natural alpha self, without any expectations in return, or trying to manipulate the woman, and you're not changing your behavior for HER, how can she shit test you in the first place?

I don't understand how you can be an alpha male who controls your own life and even get shit tests, or even have to think about them.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:46 pm 
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Op, best way to improve your inner game, going out and sarging on other girls in order to make all these tactics to part of your character so after somepoint u do not have to worry about it if shit test comes or not. Experience has to be your key through to your inner game. Except experience, all other part of your game is in theorie. I offer to buy a book with the name How Be An Alpha Male.
So, you're telling him to go out and use tactics. Why do you recommend that? Is his own personality not good enough that he needs a technique or line to cover it up? If he is saying and doing what HE wants to do then there's no problem, and he's a real alpha male.

Otherwise, he is thanking, "what can I say or do that she's going to find attractive?" and just replacing being a beta male with another supplicating behavior to make her want him.

A shit test means he's trying to act a certain way, and is scared that she'll start playing games back, and he needs to protect himself from being taken advantage of, but if he's being his real alpha self with this woman, how can she have any control over him whatsoever?

If he was saying and doing what he wanted to do, and not trying to please the woman like a REAL ALPHA, there would be no problem.

Again, if you say and do what you WANTED to do, and be your natural alpha self, without any expectations in return, or trying to manipulate the woman, and you're not changing your behavior for HER, how can she shit test you in the first place?

I don't understand how you can be an alpha male who controls your own life and even get shit tests, or even have to think about them.
I am trying to.saying is, some born as alpha some not. It s learnable thing to become an alpha. Therefore he needs to improve himself. Best way to improve himself is going out and sarging. That is the thing.

For being an alpha u need to improve yourself in every area of life. He needs to.get mentaly of it. We say same thing actually. in order to improve himself and become an alpha he needs to change old AfC behaviours. Best way is like i said learning from mistakes, going out and sarging, taking reaponsibility of the life.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:06 pm 
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I am trying to.saying is, some born as alpha some not. It s learnable thing to become an alpha. Therefore he needs to improve himself. Best way to improve himself is going out and sarging. That is the thing.

For being an alpha u need to improve yourself in every area of life. He needs to.get mentaly of it. We say same thing actually. in order to improve himself and become an alpha he needs to change old AfC behaviours. Best way is like i said learning from mistakes, going out and sarging, taking reaponsibility of the life.
I wasn't born alpha. I was the biggest anti-alpha I've ever seen, read, or heard about, so I know what you mean.

But you hit the nail on the head, and I agree with you 110% on getting out, falling on your face, and just doing it - there's really no other way.

He needs to improve himself, but he needs to work on NOT CARING what women thinking, not saying, "what should I say so I don't get manipulated by a shit test" or "what do I say to this text or when I approach so I don't lose her?"

He can't be an alpha, live on his own terms, and constantly be planning his behavior around what he THINKS is going to get a woman attracted to him.

The PUA community has a LOT of confusion and hypocrisy from the "gurus" down about what an alpha male is, they basically tell you to stop being an AFC, then go out and say and do whatever will make a woman attracted to you, and revolve your life around ACTING like a man for HER so she'll want to be with you.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:34 pm 
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Over 10 years experience. I just wish anyone here could see how much I had to get played and paid to learn these lessons.
Agreed. This pertains to other areas of life as well. Some will disregard or even disagree with hard earned real world advice and will have to keep making their own mistakes until they learn it for themselves.....if they ever even try for it in the first place.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:44 pm 
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This isn't a shit test. The girl isn't attracted to you. A shit test indicates some kind of interest.

There are a lot of women out there. Find ones that are eye-fucking you. Just walk around. Not that hard.
Yea I don't see how that proves she's not attracted to me. I'd say I'm a pretty attractive guy and I even made out with my college's homecoming queen, and she wasn't even drunk, still kinda a miracle though cause I'm not good at seducing but shit I'll take it.


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shit test are done to see how you handle pressure. This is where inner game comes into play.


Alllllll pretty girls shit test. Depending on your frame and who you are, what you believe, she may give you more shit tests than the next dude.

Still, all girls do it. The girls that don't do it are the ones that are desperate, or don't have hot guys hitting on them often. Lets say the average 5. In my experience, this is what I have encountered.
Yea true. That's a really good way to look at it man thank you.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:48 pm 
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Ok, before all the mental masturbation comes in, I'll be honest here:

1. Girl doesnt initiate conversation with you all the other times she's hung out with your friends.
2. YOU have to initiate when she's at the bar
3. She comes up to your friend, with you there and talks to him, not you
4. When you DO say something to her, she reacts in a negative way

=she's not even interested, and I have no idea why she would shit test if she's not even interested like that.

A girl shitting on you, is not her shit testing you.

There was a frame back in the day that whatever a girl does, see the humor in it. If you're at the bar and a drunk stumbling girl walks up to you and says your mom has a dick, are you gonna care about your response? Are you gonna get in some back and forth over nonsense? Best response...just laugh. Whether your delivery was shit, laugh. Whether she was just being weird, laugh. Dont get sucked into her negativity. You're out to have fun. Laughing keeps your vibe good, shows her and everyone you dont care and even would make her feel stupid. So whenever a girl is being weird, or weird shit happens, just laugh.
yea I'm not really current on all the lingo so forgive me. My point was do most girls shit on you upon approaching them like making it difficult even if they may be physically attracted to you? But to your points, they are very helpful and a good outlook, thank you.


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They will try to test you, but why even worry about it? I’m just myself 100% of the time, so woman is free to do whatever she wants.

If you’re worried about a woman testing you, it means you’re trying to put on an act around her, and you’re worried she’s going to take advantage of you and manipulate you.

If you’re only saying and doing what you want to do, her manipulating you is impossible and becomes irrelevant to the entire interaction..

People have a natural tendency to get away with whatever we can. Important thing to remember is that these girls aren’t interested in you; they’re interested in how you make them FEEL.

This is why you can be the nicest guy in the world, and she’ll tell you how much she loves and appreciate you, but the minute her ex-boyfriend who doesn’t even give a should about her calls, she will make an excuse to leave you and come running for him.

Women, in 99% of cases, aren’t with guys because they “care” about them, their with a guy because they are ADDICTED to him.

The point is, you are irrelevant, 99% of the time a woman is only focused on her own feelings, and if something’s going to make her feel good, she will pursue it.

The reason she was so distant with you was because you think she’s stupid; you think she really thought you came to a bar to talk to her about philosophy?

Girls know why guys come to bars, it’s because they want to get thought. Why didn’t you walk up to her and tell her she’s the sexiest girl you seen all night?

I know pick up “philosophy” says girls here that should all the time, but if you go to an actual bar, you’ll find guys rarely approach girls with the balls to tell them that they are actually approaching them because they’re interested in them.

The reality is, approaching her with some stupid line is what she actually does get approach with all night, and she doesn’t want to deal with that bullshit.

By approaching her and talking to her about philosophy, you’re basically telling her she’s in control of the entire frame of the conversation, then blaming her when she decides to reject you for trying to pull should her like you care about philosophy when you’re the one trying to manipulate her because you just want to fuck this girl.

And you may even try saying you didn’t want that, but if she said, “I don’t want to talk about to desecrates, let’s fuck”, would you said, “no, I really approached you because I wanted to talk about desecrates”?

You had no right to get angry at her, you approached her and said something, she doesn’t owe you anything and is free to respond however, she wants.

It sounds like you’re bitter because you approached her and said that line, and you put effort into trying to start a conversation and telling her something you thought she like to hear, and you’re angry because she blew you off.

My advice is next time try having the balls to be straightforward with her, tell her you think she’s sexy, and you want to get to know her better.
yea you probably made the best point man; and it really resonates with me. I'm going to really be mindful of this next time I'm out. And I wasn't really angry at her, I guess you could just say I'm frustrated and it just comes off as rude but at the same time I take responsibility cause you do gotta look at things both ways, and I suppose that should help me out in the long run.


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