No PUA is means to an end. However, when you become stuck in it in a career way(like you), I guess you may as well start thinking like that. Yes you may be able to get sex easily, but there'll always be more of a social stigma to being a PUA than say a doctor, or a musician.

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I guess thats the same stigma that allows me to have lots of friends, girls, and doctors/lawyers/musicians as clients who aspire to have the confidence to live this lifestyle.

While most are doing what with their unstigmatized careers?

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Who the hell is Laura and why are you allowing her to go through your browsing history?

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For some reason, I do not tell my friends about pick up stuffs. They have no idea I am reading and learning pick up materials. They only see me approach or hang out with girls and they call me a player.

Now, I feel like I possess something valuable which they wished they possessed. I am still not telling them about pick up and I will always stay ahead of the game.

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The way I see it..

I don't care if the whole world learns pick up, I'm still going to be ahead. I've always been. Thats like saying I don't want the whole world to learn to play basketball so I'll be the best out of the few people that do know how to play it.

Let the world learn it and still be better than them. Teaching the secrets of success only work to make you more successful. Besides, I need others to be great to charge me with the conviction to be greater. When you're better than all the competition theres not as much motivation to put in as much effort.

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They can have that. That along with most being largely unhappy in their lives, screwing up relationships, and families.

Means to an ends? So what you will learn pick up and then once you are good then you don't need it anymore? As in, you will learn this stuff, get a wife and then that's it done with pick up?

I got news for you man it doesn't work like that. Once you eat the apple from the tree you are a changed man and most people who do this keep learning and growing even if they do decide to settle down. Maybe you still haven't got it yet, but it's about being a better man. That's a means and an objective in its own.

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I think it's better to keep it to yourself. Women like to believe things just happened naturally, whether it be how you met, or how you act. Telling them you learned dating stuff, opens up the door for them to think that you're not being authentic and manipulative. It's like a magic trick imo. Better to do the trick and not say the secret, than to explain it and ruin the whole thing. Dating/pickup should be one small part of your life. If it's a huge part of it to the point where you need to tell a girl, you're doing something wrong. Unless it's your job.

That's more along the lines of what I meant by means to an end! You're one of the few here who seems to be keeping things balanced.

It's true. In my EXPERIENCE telling them never does this. I see the point and what usually happens is they again think things just happened naturally. Hell what is unnaturally? This is all a judgement. Who are you to say how big of an influence pick up has on ones life? Or how things should be.

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Maybe, maybe not, but they'll still think the less of you if you tell them. I mean what kind of person would tell them. This site is for giving men great experiences - NOT for showing women it so they can get amusement at the expense of our gender. I wouldn't view it as a real job if you know what I mean!

But if the information is 'out there' to such an extent that some women will be able to spot the PUA tell tail signs... basically someone behaving out of character in one way or another, & they too will adapt and up their game, thereby defeating the purpose of PUA. Some place like New York (I'm guessing) would probably be an example of a place where women are onto the tricks of PUAs, and thereby make the beginner PUAs (who use the basic well known gimmicks) look like idiots.

But then again, why would you care about beginner PUAs!

LOL every piece of advice here is a judgement. Who are any of us to tell a guy to next a girl? To walk away from a cheater? We all give our perspective on a matter or idea. Isn't it a judgement when you said people in unstigmatized careers lead largely unhappy lives? Is it only a judgement when I say something?

Anyways... Yeah I say pickup and dating shouldn't be a huge part of your life. There is a lot more to life than sleeping with chicks. Also if you don't have other things going for yourself than being able to get women you're missing out and unlikely to attract quality women if you can't offer more.

Neo. There's nothing wrong with telling a girl about pickup. You're exercising your mental muscle. You wouldn't stop going to the gym forever because you got kinda big, would you? Didn't think so.

Edit: Just noticed when you signed up to the website.

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I grew out of the dumb shit I used to say on here. Most of my posts don't represent who I am today at all.

I believe and it is said here that 99 percent of pickup material is garbage. I have no idea how someone can still have pickup as a huge part of their lives once they've gotten good. If you are still cold approaching with a wing 3 years in, you've done something wrong. If you're still reading tons of material 3 years in you've done something wrong.

Is pickup a part of my life? Yeah kinda. But not even a good part of it. Like I spend time hiking or cycling every month.. I don't spend time with pickup like that. I read the stuff here give advice but no more than I do on other hobbies websites. I go out with friends and meet girls. I go out and meet girls. I travel and meet girls. I meet and sleep with girls doing things other than pickup. Don't get me wrong pickup is a great thing.. It's just that if I were telling a girl honestly about myself and my hobbies.. Pick up would be probably be the 13th thing.

I don't get why there is this distinction for pickup. Go out have fun and make moves. Nothing I need to explain to a woman. It ain't that serious. I don't think it's a big deal when I sleep with a woman so why make a big deal of it?

Maybe I'm different as you guys have your own values and I respect that. I just think for me personally, I'd rather tell a woman about my travel stories or my friends or my career or what I enjoy reading or movies or my dreams and goals than to explain to her hey there is this forum and this is what a neg is. Most time I've seen a guy explain pickup to a girl it was to brag or appear player. I wouldn't be ashamed of pickup...its just why explain something that's not a big deal and points out that you've studied something as relatively easy as getting laid.