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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:55 am 
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So, ive started trying this pua shit, and im pretty confident but not knowlesdgable.
So i went to a nightclub and was like "im the man, im gonna fuck all these women". So i literally opened like 10 sets with shit like "hey, why so stale? Lets go dance" and pulled their hands, but theyd look and say no thanks. Than id try to dance with these girls but im terrible at dancing, so theyd say "youre dancing wrong haha" or some shit or just laugh at my attempt.
Basically, approached with confidence, couldnt dance (latin music thats really sexy) and got rejected like 12 times. What the fuck?i was confident as shit and opened them like that dancing guy from the simpsons.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:00 am 
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Set 1: (to a girl) lets dance *starts dancinng with her* she says "thats not how you dance pagode lol"
Set 2: went with wing "why so stale? Lets dance" pulled hand but got shot down
Set 3: calls her to dance and i started dancing kind of like michael jackson - she makes fun of the dance and ignores
Set 4: i come in direct with "LETS HAVE A TRIPLE KISS" she says no what the fuck
Set 5: starts dancing next to a lone girl, she gives weird look and moves away
Set 6: asks girls name and says ok lets dance - dance for a frw seconds the friends look at me like wtf they close me off
Set 7: goes up to women, says lets dance and grabs their hand, they say we cant dance, so i do a little spin move and say ill teach you guys - gets ignored closed off
Set 8: says shes not good at dancing - i insist and she stars ignoring
Set 9: girl giving iois at bar, so i approach and ask her name and didnt know what to say so just said ok meet me at dance floor later - this one was my fault i acknowledge
And on and on
Im fucking pissed off at this bullshit


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:05 am 
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- Try to have more fun while you're in the club. Actually enjoy the process of trying to dance and interact with these girls. SERIOUSLY! And self-amuse yourself ALOT while you're there. I don't even think that you want to be there.


- TALK TO EVERYONE!!! Both Girls and Dudes. Be talkative and social with people in general. Think of it as mingling with strangers, and not doing pickup.


- You're probably too outcome dependent, and validation seeking. You have an agenda of you trying to get them to fuck you, and the girls can feel it. That's what i suspect that's why they are creeped out by you.


- Learn from your failures. At the end of your night..talk to yourself (ie self-talk). Have a debrief with yourself, and ask yourself questions and give answers to what you did wrong and what you did right..if you're out solo. If you're with a wing..ask them for their feedback on how your game looked to them.


- See getting laid as the cherry on top. The cake and the icing is the learning process while you're out in the field.


- Get happy and excited when you fail, because it is an opportunity for you to learn from it, and get better and better.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:33 am 
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Lol, im going there to destroy some ass at the end...i dont know, i guess youre right, but i was doing all this confidently zero fucks given but just didnt get shit


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:17 pm 
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Lol, im going there to destroy some ass at the end...i dont know, i guess youre right, but i was doing all this confidently zero fucks given but just didnt get shit
That "zero fucks given" mindset is probably the best mindset that you need to have for nightclub game. In that case..all you may be missing is a little bit of empathy with the girls that you approach. Give girls a little bit of breathing room when you interact with them. Don't just be ON! ON! ON! ON! with them all of the time. Take a step back at times. Be more patient in your sets.


I was at a bar downtown last night, talking to a 2-Set. One dude came up in the set and hollered at the hottest girl of the 2. I honestly didn't really care that he AMOGed me. And it turns out that he was actually a cool dude. He did pretty well with the girl. The rapport between him and her seemed to be going well, until he starting shouting and shit like that. This dude was loud and belligerent. Although he embodied the typical douchebag stereotype (that alot of girls do like and find attractive, ie "THE BAD BOY")..the girl eventually moved away from him and sat somewhere else. I actually told him afterwards that he probably scared the girl off because he was too aggressive. So all he needed to do was tone it down a couple of notches, and he probably would've got her.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:09 pm 
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Also to add onto that, i think YOU'RE TRYING WAY TOO HARD. You're putting on a "Clown Dance" for these girls. That's why they're mocking you. Although you said that you were confident and didn't give a shit when you did it..it's still low value. Because a truly cool, high value guy, doesn't need to put on any kind of a "Clown Dance" to attract women. Do it a little bit, but not in every set. If you do the whole "Dancing Clown" thing, it should be purely for your own self-amusement..and not to do it just to get a reaction out of the girl. It's all about the kind of place that the whole "Dancing Clown Act" is coming from.


Focus more on being congruent (ie "just be yourself". I know you heard that one before, because i have. LOl) with who you really are. If you don't know what that is..it's who you really are when you're alone at your house, when you're hanging out with best friends, and family members that you are very close with. Would you feel the need to put on a "Dancing Clown Act" whenever you are hangout out with your best friends and close members of your family? Probably not. And if you did..it would probably be purely just for your own self-amusement purposes, because that is just who you are and what you find funny.


This is the real you that you want to eventually bring out whenever you approach girls in the nightclub. And if you can't do that..then your issues probably lye in your inner game.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:10 pm 
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Good advice by GFRESH2DEF.

Also it sounds like this was your first time or one of your first times to go out and meet women. The ones who succeed at anything are the ones who keep trying and modifying and don't give up. No one starts out solidly at anything - some of the best basketball players of all time were on the JV team at times during their high school careers.

Your post reminded me of one of the first times i tried 'pickup' - i was drunk in a club and kept going up to women to ask them nonsensical questions. I had shitty eye contact, piss poor demeanor, the works (not implying you had these things). But it was a start and it was better than doing nothing.


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