So I am still pretty new to all of this, but there is one thing that I know to be true about a lot of women....there are more non-smokers than there are smokers. I am pretty heavy smoker myself (about a pack/day), and I think this might throw an extra obstacle between me and a target. Any thoughts on how to overcome this? Smoke in front of her, don't smoke, play it down, etc? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

use the smoking to your advantage

do a the good ol' cigarette ash magic trick in the smoke area to get with your target. Works for me

you familiar with that one?

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LOL

i have the reverse problem, i am a not smoker and most of hot girls in italy are smokers..

in italy is a hard anti-smoke law, you dont have to smokle in bars, ther are extra smoking zones,and most girls are there, but i hate smoker zones.. so i have t go tho clubs that have no smoker-zonesn so all smokers are in front of the dor at the fresh air

Bose....sounds like a good idea, but I don't know what the cigarette ash magic trick is. Could you explain it?
Thanks

yeah sure,

basically what you are going to do is convince this women that you are mentally and physically linked (though try not to creep them out) and you are going to demonstrate that if you burn your hand that she will get burnt too .

So what you do before you even start the trick is make sure there is ash on your finger already.

Then go to a woman and grab both her hands and hold them in a position out in front of her palms down and at about her chest height. As you place her hands rub the ash that is already on your index finger ( make sure to do the same motion with the other finger even if it doesn't have any ash on it just so she doesn't think anything of it) so the ash is already on her hand and she won't know it.

Then do this, ask her which hand she uses, left or right handed kind of thing, this is just misdirection, after she tells you which one, make her place the hand down that doesn't have any ash on it, no matter which hand she says is her good one.

Then this is where the fun comes into play. Take your lit smoke and start bullshitting about voodoo and stuff, i am not going to tell you what to say cause I hate scripts lol. But cheese it up! Heck be the center of attention for a few people

Anyways all you gotta do is lightly tap the cherry of the cigarette on the palm of your hand, just enough so there is ash there, then in a magic sort of way kinda rub it into your skin and while you're doin that be like, "hey do you feel that?" and keep sayin that till she says yes.

Then for a dramatic finally get her to look at her hand. She will be shocked to find the ash in her hand! lol

Then expect the worst, which has happened to me, where either your target or someone in the crowd calls you on your trick and knows the secret. So have some negs ready to go to change subject and the pace of things. This is where a wing man really pays off.

PM though if you wanna chat more

cheers

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DannyT,

You can do without the smoking. I used to smoke a pack a day too. Especially in the clubs, where I was nervous and needed to have "something in my hands". A cigarette felt good at those times. But here is the trap: the cigarette is a negative anchor for nervousness. In clubs it leads to a nervous response, simply meaning that you smoke because you are nervous.
"I am nervous, that's why I'm smoking" or "I am smoking, therefore I must be nervous" is the idea. Something better: Drink juices/soda's (so that A. You maintain the highest level of common sense, because alcohol lowers your smoking threshold, B. you don't get wasted like all of those guys out there) and refrain yourself from sucking at a piece of paper with tobacco's. I know, it's a tough call (I like to smoke too), BUT worth it, and YOU CAN DO IT.
Ultimately it's about your OWN health! So it's always your call and within YOUR control.
Good luck. Let us know how it all goes!

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check bathrooms for askthrays...girls dont go in therrrrre, if im on a date i always check the bathroom for ashtray's on the walls or some shit, and have never had some 'smoke allergic' sally(lame guy) say anything either