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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:18 pm 
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Ok, before I throw out my question I need to explain something about myself. I am very much a win-win kind of person. As in, I don't like to enter into negotiations unless both parties benefit. It's my curse and my blessing. I'm not a pussy, as in, I don't give in just because the other person wants something because I've got the balls to say "Fuck you. That doesn't work for me." But my moral code also doesn't allow me to say, "Fuck you. I'm taking what I want anyways."

On that note, here's the deal. Item one: I've been happily married for about a year and a half now. Item two: We've been living an open relationship pretty much the entire time we've been together although neither of us have acted on it since getting married. She hasn't wanted to and my game has sucked lol. Item three: I left town on a month-long business trip and things have started to come together in my game. Last week I was forcibly kissed by two different women, propositioned by another and checked out by numerous others. Anyways, it like tore my wife up but she said she was willing to deal. She got real depressed the other day and I did my best to chipper her up. In the meantime, she'd made out with some guy and set up a few other options. Friday night, I had zero luck but she met one of her options and they made out. Just made out! I got really jealous and really upset. Told her to leave and that I didn't like this. Now the reasoning behind it was that I didn't like the way I felt at all and I knew that she felt the same things. And I don't like that she felt these same feelings and LET herself feel these things. Now I'm going to continue to improve my social game just for my own confidence's sake but I've got no intentions of cheating on her. She's too fucking awesome and incredibly hot. Pisses me off that other guys have made out with that.

So my question is, am I being a pussy or am I doing what I think is best for both of us?

I know this is long and for anyone who's taken the time to read it, thanks a lot. I figure anyone who's invested that much time will probably give useful advice.

Y'all be cool,
- Monkey


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:27 pm 
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You're married and you have a commitment to her, whether your relationship is open or not. I can understand the feelings you have because my wife cheated on me and left. I know what kind of thoughts you have running through your brain. My suggestion is to talk to her about how it made you feel, how you didn't like it, and that you want to have a mutually exclusive relationship with your wife. She sounds like she'll be receptive to it. When in doubt seek counseling seriously! Don't take too long and let things go unsaid.

You got your kiss she got upset. She got revenge and made out with a guy she's even. Time to bury the hatchet. :) Good Luck!

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Yeah, talk to her about it. This isn't something that you want to beat around the bush with, or hope it will go away, cause it won't. If you guys are in love with each other and can't stand to have anyone else get in between you two, then go with it and embrace an exclusive relationship. Having an open relationship is a choice, but so is having an exclusive relationship. Some of us are only in the game hoping to find that girl that we can have a lasting exclusive relationship with and there's nothing wrong with that.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't always strive to better yourself and keep on working at learning how to keep your wife as attracted as possible and happy in the relationship, because then you'll end up in a stagnant relationship. Now you've just got new things to focus on instead of picking girls up, like how to make her crazy about you because you give her better sex than any man she's ever been with.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:19 pm 
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Talk to her, immediatly. You are married, part of being married is being able to work things out. Don't waste anytime in doing so either. Like J said if you can't get anywhere go to counseling with her.

Whats done is done. You can't change that, however you can become a better couple. If you both really love each other, there should be no problem becoming mutually exclusive. If she's still bitter, go to counseling. But do something, being inactive in this will only lead to a bad end.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:45 pm 
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Hey guys, thanks for the input.

Yeah, we've been talking and I think that the plan is to hang up the openness deal. I will continue to work on my game just because I think it's cool to be sexy and she deserves a sexy dude.

My biggest thing is did it sound like I was doing changing my tune because I'm a wuss and that never came up in any of your responses so that pretty much tells me it sounds like the right thing to do. But yeah, I'll definitely keep working at attracting her specifically and just being attractive in general.

Peace,
- Monkey


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:44 am 
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I don't have much to offer in terms of relationship advice here as I've never been married and I don't know what that's like, however I recently read a great book on negotiations. It's a book I read for business reasons but it has some over lap with PU and related to what you said about 'win-win' deals. Who know it might help with your girl and will help you in all business deals. The book is:

Negotiation Genius: How to Overcome Obstacles and Achieve Brilliant Results at the Bargaining Table and Beyond
by Deepak Malhotra (Author), Max Bazerman (Author)


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:32 am 
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Busker,

You're a stud. As are the rest of you pimps. Thanks for the 411. I'll use it.

That right there is the difference between a PUA and an AFC. Using the phenomenal advice you get from top quality cats like Rye Lee, Jsmooth and big B.

Preach,
- Monkey


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