One of the things I've learned during my time dating women is that it's generally never too soon to go for the hookup. And as I've gained experience over the years I've become more comfortable pushing for it sooner and sooner. By and large, it seems to me that women are understanding of our role as the aggressor and that you shouldn't be sheepish or apologetic about trying to get it in.

Nonetheless, I think that going for it too soon or when the mood isn't right can completely ruin things.

There is a really hot chick I had been seeing recently and for our first few times out together we just went on typical dates. She had enough value where I didn't want to just go for broke and try to bang her right away. By our fourth time hanging out, we had a lull in the action prior to meeting her friends out for drinks. We had an hour to kill and she recommended chilling at her place. "Just chilling, nothing more," she said.

Still, I took this as a golden opportunity to at least escalate. And so we got to the point of both being topless and making out in the bedroom. Before it got too far, we went out for the drinks and then I invited myself back to her place for more making out, again really pushing the envelope as far as escalation but not getting further than dry humping and a handjob.

Now, the next day, I didn't hear from her. Which was odd because she generally initiated communication. I decided to strike a conversation up and directly ask her to meet up again this week.

Her response, "idk, the last time was a little weird. I had a lot of fun going out but when we were at my place...."

and that was it. I tried a witty/dismissive comeback line and she didn't even respond.

So I understand it's time to cut my losses, delete the number and move on. But I'm wondering what sort of learning experience to take form this. Is going all in for the lay more trouble than its worth? To be clear, this is the type of person I would be fine waiting for prior to having sex. Any insight?

Welcome to th world of ons.

Actually there are thousands of dynamics for rapid escalation, but best thing you can do it analyse that chick how liberal is she? How comfortable is the place? Every chick has own limit, if you push so further beyond those limits you will probably get rejected. For becoming pro for it you should have to analyse the dynamics, after a time you can do it naturally but like i said before you do that i suggest talk a bit dirty stuff and gauge her it gives you firet impression how liberal is she.

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