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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:49 pm 
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I hooked up with this girl about 3 months ago, we started hanging out again but only as friends as if nothing has happened which is pretty awesome to be honest, she has 3 other friends with which she spends pretty much all of her free time, she's an 8, 2 of them are 7-8's and yup, you guessed it - the last one's a 10. Very cute girl, she has a great body, I've been told she's very fun and the best part - unlike the other 3, she isn't as wild, when it comes to partying and sex (my type of girl). I haven't met her yet only through pictures and stories, we're going to the same party this weekend and I'm afraid that I might get sabotaged by my friend (HB8) who will probably let her know about our past or that she saw me hooking up with some random girl at the club, I feel absolutely no shame for doing so, but the problem is that she hates players, and if she senses even the slightest vibe of it - game over. I'm really looking forward to seeing this girl, the last time I was so intrigued by a girl was before I started my journey as a PUA, so you can see why I'm getting so worked up over this one. Unlike the other girls I game, my intention isn't just to get a 1 nightstand or anything of that order, but rather to see if she'll live up to the expectations and if so - try to make her my gf.

I could really use some advice on what I should do, I have some tactics how to not come off as a player mainly - flipping the script, making her seem as the player, I'm more concerned about the friend.. any thoughts?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:54 pm 
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Hooking up with a random girl at the club makes you a player?

C'mon dude, you're already stressing over non-existent problems. You say you feel no shame for those events, which is perfect. If the 10 finds you attractive and you keep it honest and shameless, there's nothing the friend can do to cockblock. Women will almost always pick up on you trying to bullshit yourself into their pants. And in that case the friends arguments will only reinforce her beliefs.

Point is just don't try manipulating her. It won't work. Own who you are and believe that's the best guy in the room she's talking to.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:39 pm 
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So you're completely worked up over some girl that you haven't even met yet and you honestly think you stand the slightest chance with that mentality? You don't know if she's completely out of her mind? You don't know whether or not she'll be at your social level. Nor do you know whether or not you'll be attracted to her once you finally do meet her. Come back down to earth until at least after you meet the girl a few days. You can head back to cloud 9 after you get a bit more information on her.

Now.. go out and find one girl who will say " I love players".. You won't find one. But you know what.. Most of them have slept with one. Instinct is instinct and attraction is attraction, so it makes no difference what a girl THINKS she likes; its about how she feels in the moment when its in front of her.

If you go in trying to mold yourself and shape your personality and character after some guy you THINK she will like you'll just make a new friend. And thats exactly what happens to guys that try to change themselves to fit a girl instead of encouraging(leading) a girl to take a few new steps to fit them.

I don't mind a guy putting a woman on a pedestal, but the least he can do is put himself on one first. Cut it out man. You're going there to be yourself, have a good time and hit on her(last). Make the room your mission, get social, they'll be other chicks there.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:40 pm 
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I don't think of myself as a "player" just because of that event that occured, I don't think of myself like that for any other reasons as well. I know that I'm going to be the life of the party no matter what, because that's just how I am, I'm perfectly normal around other people feeling no anxiety what so ever, confident and tend not to care about what other people think of me. This is the main reason I've managed to be successful in my journey on becoming a MPUA, I'm not putting her on the pedastal, I know if I play my cards right I can get the 10, great advice on the embracing. I'm acting like a hypocrite, I notice that many people tend to over-think things and now I've found myself doing the same.

There is no fear what so ever about social value or anything of that order which you've mentioned Eddie, I've been told that my confidence is admirable, disarming other guys or even using them my advantage is far from being my sticking-point. But as I said - you're both right, I'm going there to be myself, and if someone doesn't like it they can go f... theirselves, I should stick to this mindset since it's been doing wonders so far, thanks for the reply


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I don't think of myself as a "player" just because of that event that occured, I don't think of myself like that for any other reasons as well. I know that I'm going to be the life of the party no matter what, because that's just how I am, I'm perfectly normal around other people feeling no anxiety what so ever, confident and tend not to care about what other people think of me. This is the main reason I've managed to be successful in my journey on becoming a MPUA, I'm not putting her on the pedastal, I know if I play my cards right I can get the 10, great advice on the embracing. I'm acting like a hypocrite, I notice that many people tend to over-think things and now I've found myself doing the same.

There is no fear what so ever about social value or anything of that order which you've mentioned Eddie, I've been told that my confidence is admirable, disarming other guys or even using them my advantage is far from being my sticking-point. But as I said - you're both right, I'm going there to be myself, and if someone doesn't like it they can go f... theirselves, I should stick to this mindset since it's been doing wonders so far, thanks for the reply
Seems like you got it. On that notes, always take the "you seem like a player" comment as a compliment... 8) means you're doing something right.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:52 am 
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Update:

I just got back from the party and I'm still a bit woozie yet I decided to share my story with all of you just for laughs. The 10 was just as I imagined, banging body, Incredible smile (which she hid for some unknown insecurities), she was pretty much the center of attention the whole night (by the males, including myself), the moment me and my 3 other male friends walked in the party she had a crush on one of them (he's taken by the way), I didn't bother to notice it, and only found out about it when we already left. I pretty much neg'ed her to death, since everyone's tactics to "smooth" talk her didn't work, my friends tried to do the same (note - they don't know squat about the whole PUA thing), I did something which to my mind is a rookie move and said that "the're only being hard on you because the're too shy to compliment your beautiful smile, which is a bit counter-intuitive with my neging (the entire night I sensed that she was pretty resistant to kino escalations, so I tried to build attraction&comfort verbally first) . She did not take it as well as I anticipated and the room went pretty quiet after that, I didn't get anxious and felt/behaved as if I was self amused. The only girl which I knew there was pretty into me for some unknown reasons even though I showed her 0 interest what so ever, which included her putting her head on my shoulder and other kino IOI's, her interest in me was not shown verbally but physically, her other friend who's a HB8 showed me her interest with compliance and such IOI's as laughing at pretty much everything I say. I was not interested in either of them, my eyes were set on the 10, yet I couldn't manage to get her attention for more than 5 seconds even though I was the life of the party with my positive and slightly higher energy. This is the greatest obstacle I have ever faced in my whole carrier as a PUA, it could be the alcohol that negatively effected my game, but I figure that it was mostly the fact that I'm still too much of a rookie and she started chasing my other friend who has a gf just because of his looks, and my game wasn't strong enough to compete with that. After many failed subtle attempts to "wow" her we went to sleep, me, the HB10 and the friend she was attracted to shared a bed (I know this may sound pathetic but it was mostly funny). I have no idea if she was pretending to be sleepy or if she actually felt the urge to fall asleep ASAP but as we were laying down, she was moving from my side of the bed to my friend's, kept laughing at all my subtle cocky/funny little comments (example - how she's practicing taekwondo while sleeping). She was wearing tight yoga pants (as I said she has a banging body), my friend noticed that and looked at with a surprised look on his face "wow", later on whispered in my ear how he wishes that he didn't have a girlfriend. Even though I was completely into the HB10 I found the whole situation f...... hilarious, I'm too much of a rookie to take over, he has a girlfriend, I'm not sure if she's aware that if she still tries - she has 0 chances. I think to my self - Incredible, and again start laughing out loud (no sarcasm intended). I was hysterical the whole time while we were laying in bed due to the situation that has occurred. We had 0 sleep what so ever due to her black belt taekwondo kicks, when everyone gathered up in the morning my female friend tried showing her affection for me again (and this time way more obvious than usual), unsuccessfully though, the HB10 was sound asleep for everyone's eyes to see and by that moment I realized, for today - it's game over. I wish I could have played it better than this, but sad and as funny as it is - I managed to fail with a girl that I've been actually attracted to since my whole PUA journey.
I feel no negative emotions for my failure, I find it as a source of motivation to improve, and since I feel no shame in making a fool of my self - I'm sharing this story would you guys, what would you have done differently in my situation?


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