Alright, I am going to ask everyone if you all could please help me out here. I am 30, and I got a phone number from a woman that was 58. She was hitting on me, and then hinted off about a date. I went to pick her up, she took one look at me, hurried inside to get her purse, and then came back out. I ended up picking a restaurant bar so I would prevent us from falling into the friend zone, and we both sat at the bar counter.

She was showing a ton of positive body language including lots of laughing; smiling; dilated pupils; mirroring my movements; playing with her jewelry; good facial animations; gazing into my eyes for a long period (I injected the vision of me fukking her in the bed here); and finger movement. I think we also faded in and out of seduction mode, because she asked me what else I was doing that day. However, there was one bad signal, she had her arms crossed and her fists clenched, but it was an off and on thing that happened for about half the time we were sitting there. When I drove her home, she smiled and asked if I had Monday off, and I blushed saying that I did. I reached out to hug her, and we both went in for a kiss that lasted two seconds. Yes, I did use kino 4 times!!

I called her up two days later, and she said she just wanted to be friends because of our age gap, and that she wasn't ready for a relationship. Did I get Friend Zoned because I failed in the Rapport Stage? My head was in the clouds for two days, but she said she didn't feel the same. I'm trying to read the matrix here, and just want to know what caused this. Was it because a connection couldn't be established during our rapport? I'm looking for someone experienced to point out what happened here. Thank you all so much!

What in the actual fuck bro.... 58? Why do you want vagina that is that old? What does she bring to the table that is so spectacular it's worth putting up with a 58 year old vagina?

Please help me to understand that that's the opposite of anything I've ever heard!! I want young, fun, sexy, fresh, tight 20 yr old vagina on my dick not dusty/discolored/baggy/loose/used 58 yr old pussy!!

Is she a multi-millionaire that will pay your way and let you sleep around with younger women while you're together??? Please help me understand the desire here?!?!

I've been messing around with a lot of young girls and even just 8 yrs difference is huge (young women are generally not good at sex and can't hold great conversation) esp if you're considering a relationship. But no, you're at 28 yrs difference. I'm just imagining having a relationship with my mom it makes me want to vomit.

The posts on this board get more bizarre each day.

We were hitting on each other in the Wal-Mart parking lot, and there was some sexual attraction. She doesn't look her age, and could pass for 50. I don't know how to explain it, there was just a "click" between us. I feel a bit confused as to why I got friend zoned when the date went extremely well with the kino, eye gazing, good kiss, and so forth. My best guess is that the Rapport Stage failed, and she got a little bored.

She must have went home to think it over, and didn't want to risk walking around with a guy that looked like her son. On a side note, I used to watch a lot of step incest porn and hentai, and my therapist had to help pull me out of it, because it was taking a really bad effect on my life. A portion of that fetish still lingers in my subconscious mind, which is why I'm attracted women that could pass for my step-mom. I'm really disappointed that this happened, but nothing can be done as of now. If she had accepted me, I would have happily moved into a relationship with her. Goddamn, this sucks....

Ok... that makes sorta sense, but still the genetic nature should desire young healthy women fit to reproduce... females generally LOSE value as they get older, not gain. She's past menopausal lmao!!

I actually played out a similar fantasy with a woman I met a few weeks ago. Called her mom and everything, but she was 30...

Anyway she's not really showing signs of interest, you need to find other women man...

I see, but do you have any idea of what I did wrong here? I'm trying to understand the matrix.

Her husband probably came out of hospital after the hip replacement, you were just her young meat for the day

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Her husband probably came out of hospital after the hip replacement, you were just her young meat for the day

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No, she said she was single. I'm still trying to understand this whole Friend Zone thing. I did everything in my power to hook that woman, and it still didn't work.

She must of had a stroke

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I love that you replied to that seriously, I'm dying

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You did everything except bring her back to your place and fuck her.

That's why she was sitting with her arms crossed and her fists clenched. She was probably frustrated that she wasted all that time dealing with some guy who was acting like a little boy and not a man.

I am with the op on this one. I would rather have a milf instead of a 20 year old any time of the day.
ok this might make you think I am sick, but if she has some wrinkles --> hot hot hot
by wrinkles I dont mean she has to look 80, but if she has some slight signs of aging, that's hot.

Milf? dude, she's 58. That makes her a gilf if that can even become a term.

Anyway, OP, she didn't friendzone you. You friendzoned yourself. God damn 58 year old woman and all you did was kiss her at the end of the date.
Were you planning to hold hands on date 2 and maybe ask her over for a movie on date 3?

Lack of proper escalation = highway to the friendzone. Congrats, you bought yourself a #1st class ticket.

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