What up guys? I just went out tonight to a nice little club downtown. I decided I am now a PUA in training... or AFC whatever. So I no longer talk to the less attractive females. I only talk to the beatiful ones. Wow it was brutal tonight. I normally get at least one or two numbers and a shit load of attention, but tonight I didn't get shit!

I assume the first reason is that I am talking to beatiful women now and my game has got to step up. The second reason is because I am using canned lines and they are noticed by the females, who call me on the spot. So I got rejected a lot to night.

I opened with MY friend needs advice from a female perspective. Then got there opinion on some shit about ex girlfriend being a friend then stared blankly at them and walked away because I had nothing else to say.

The next girl I dragged over to my friend and set them up. That acutally worked.

The next girl I did a cold read on being a cake... and i only remebered two things. So I asked her how big a cake she would be, and what color, then if she would share it. After she gave me her answers I forgot what they meant. I told her I fucked up and and she said yes you did, she was then done with me.

wow I have a lot to learn. I am just like the other guys here looking for free help.

Sincerely much love,
Magnum -AFC

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We all have nights like this.

The key is, to learn from your mistakes. My wing is great, because generally after the night out we go home and dissect each and every interaction.

We figure out what we could have said better and how we could have dealt with those bitch shields.

I find that if I'm in a major PUA mood I lay of the alcohol a lot so I'm sharp and ready. Could this have been a reason why you fucked up the *cake cold-read*?

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I just didn't study it enough, that’s why I forgot it

I tried it again tonight. On a HB8-9 with a blue BMW M5 (found that out later). Three buddies and myself were having drinks at a Mexican food restaurant in midtown. My big swollen friend with AFC mentality and no game calls over two girls (HB8 and a 6) and asks them to sit with us for margaritas. (He’s got no game, but he tries hard) It works perfectly. He has little confidence as he is yelling across the restaurant at the girls, but it works. They come over. I am getting IOI's from both the ladies as I play it cool. The HB8 sits next to me. I simply just get up and greet the women, and sit down. 2 min's pass with her chating to other guys and some chit chat with me. Then I look into her eyes smile as I make a joke. Right after that she asks what we are doing tonight, because her and her girlfriends are going out to a club.

Unfortunately my AFC friend is touching all over the 6 and giving her all the attention. The HB8 started asking me questions and I gave her responses. I was feeling like a pimp because I wasn't drooling on her. I was so nervous though. She started playing with her phone a lot because she had to give some girl directions to a club they were going to head out to after the restaurant. So I asked the 6 across the table. "Does your friend always talk on the phone this much?" (my neg) She wasn't on the phone at that time, so she looked at me, kind of laughed, tapped my shoulder playfully, and said "you can ask ME that." Then she got nervous and started shaking a little bit, and talking fast. She was saying like, "No I don't talk on the phone this much; it is just directions I'm bad at directions". It seemed like she was validating herself to me... maybe. God I was so nervous, but breathing helped, and I was doing better than the rest of my buddies.

So, I remember what the young girl at the tanning salon told me. "You really need to work on your confidence. I can tell you get nervous... like a jackrabbit heart. So when that happens to you. Talk to someone else". So, I followed her advice and went to the restroom for a breather.

When I came back one of my friends tells me, loud enough for the girls to hear. "There all three single". So I try and play it cool because she is staring at me. I sarcastically say like "Oh great for them". Then eat a bite of my chicken and turn my back toward her." My friend proceeds to pinch me hard, and I say "owe".

Now I use the *cake cold-read*. I ask like 4 of the 7 questions and sputter my way through it. Give her the analysis. She is a cool girl; she likes normal size cake with lots of candles, colored peach, with awesome icing, and shares. Now the girls are leaving, and they are Latin by the way. So we give each other kisses on the check and I hold her side with a nice squeeze for longer than normal. She returns the squeeze, and our kiss was slightly longer too. It was so exciting for me just to squeeze her fine body like that.

Then the HB8 says something like, "You guys should really come to the club with us". (This is the third time we/I have been invited) I was like, "Humm.... Do you think we can get in with what we are wearing?" She replied, “Yes I think your both good. You don't have tennis shoes on". Then as she is walking away I say, "Ok we will think about it".

So my AFC friends hang out there for like 3 more hours. Then go to the club. As we stroll up talking on a cell phone... trying to regroup everyone, we see her. She is standing outside the club waiting for valet talking to some crazy guy all over her. She is drunk now I can tell. I wanted to walk right up to her and pull her away, but I didn't know if she was going home with him or what. She seemed to be very responsive to his touches. She sees me staring at her and her face frowns. The male she is with tries one last kiss, as he does this, she turns her head to the side and the male implants his face into her cheek for 5 druken seconds. Then she gets in her beautiful crystal blue BMW M5 and drives off as me and my 6 buddies watch her drive away.

Inside the club I proceeded to dance with one chick and get blown off. Talk with another chick and get blown off. Talk with the other chick’s best friend and get blown off. Finally on the way out I talk with a 55 year old women and a hot 35 year old (rare). I open with, “I’m young". The 35 year old rolls her eyes. The 55 year old says, "I'm Old." I say, “No you’re not”. Then I stare at them blankly with nothing else to say. The 55 year old has a blinking light up ring which she proceeds to do the Sign of the Cross across my face. As the 35 year old wispers something to the effect of, “Who opens with “I’m young.””?

So, I'm happy with those rejections. I think I need them…. I'm not happy about losing the HB8. I feel like I had a chance.

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Ok I can't sleep. I just hung the phone up on a girl I have been seeing, a 5. I have been seeing her as a FB for a while. She is trailer trash. I just wanted to sneak in the nookie. Now people at school are finding out, and my rep is looking bad. Luckily for me she doesn't associate with anyone other than *losers* I hope that statement doesn't make me seem like a jerk.

So, I have been trying to distance myself from her because I feel like she has a huge negative effect on my personality. When I repeat what the 5 tells me (jokes, phrases etc...) to girls with high self esteem those just look at me with crazy "WTF" eyes. The 5 is bringing me down I know that.

I am just using her for sex. So, one day she came over asking me if she needed to "buy some condoms" before she got over to my place. I said, "Yes." because I don't have any more. When she got here I was being really nice to her, and she kind of didn't want me. I pressed harder, and she was turned off. She said, "NO". Literally as soon as the word left her lips I snapped in a stern voice, "Get out".

We don't talk to each other for about a week after "Get out", and during this time she runs her mouth and slams me to everyone she talks to. Then I wise up. Like oh snap I’m not supposed to be an asshole anymore. Then I call her back and apologize. She accepts, and starts banging me causally again.

Tonight she says, "Do you want to fuck me?" I say, "Maybe." Then she is like, "Just tell me you want me to come over." I'm like, "It's up to you." This is driving her crazy. Now she spouts off, "Well I'm not coming over unless you tell me you want me to." I replied with, "BYE" Click.

So she really doesn't come over, even though normally she does. Then I text her later that night, and ask her if she is going to stop bye. She calls me, and states, “Do you want me to?" I cave and say yes because I keep picturing her down on all fours taunting me with her body and begging me for it. After that she spouts off with, "Well I don't have enough gas to come over." CLICK! I hung up, which pissed her off.

Now how the hell am I going to break up with this girl without her hating me? I can still talk to her like normal, but it is going to be hard to resist her all the time. If I just cut it off now she will talk shit about me to everyone she comes in contact with.

P.S. I know I come off a little defensive sometimes. I have just learned tonight that it is because of a low self esteem issue. I’m putting up a front to protect myself from being rejected. I learned this from the book "Self-Esteem" by Matthew Mckay and Patrick Fanning.

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Holy canole brother....

I'm excited for you but I'm also nervous for you.

Sounds like you're heavy on the technique but light on the theory.

This cat is the king of natural game and this is probably one of the most enlightening pieces of literature I've ever read on any level.

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Spend some time on your inner game stuff. I've got some great recent posts on things I've been learning lately that might do you some good. If not, go fuck yourself

I've linked them here for you.

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Thanks Bro I read every word of it. I think it will help with the nervousness.

So tonight I had a so called Date. With a 7 from my government class. She is bisexual. She constantly hits on me because I have a motorcycle, and I dress really nice. She tells me these things.

The first day of school she came off really desperate. She was talking to every guy she came in contact with. I tried to stay away, but I was drawn by her neediness. Then bam! I just talked to her and I knew exactly who she was and what she wanted in life. I had extreme confidence.

I was trying to stay away from her because there are better and hotter girls in the class. One of them was kind of a bitch. I talked with the bitch on the first day. I said, "You're quite the artist." because she was scribbling on her notebook in gigantic circles. She must have sensed my weak confidence because she had a BS up. So, I turned my back and that was the last time I talked to her. (This was before I read "The Game")

Anyways, so now the 7 is just begging me to sit next to her, but I refuse to firstly because she is really needy and clingy. She is texting me and asking me to by her Monster drinks. I tell her NO you got your own money.

So we go out tonight for sushi because she ask me to. It was a great time. I told her up front we were going Dutch, and she didn't like it much but she agreed. We sat at a place where they make your food in front of you. The head chief at the restaurant walked up drinking a beer, and started making our food. Then he proceeds to ask us why we were not drinking and he keeps razing us about it. So, I say why don't you buy us a drink, and he did, with like 6 shots of soki all for free.

Then we start talking about her being a bisexual, and how she has never used a strap on yet, but she really really wants to. After that we talk about how sex and being on top makes your butt nicer. So, I was like, "WTF how are you on top..." and then she started describing sex to me and the head chief stating, "I have my back arched, and I come up and down... yada yada." Now my dick is getting hard. So, I interrupt her and say like ok another shot of soki!

Now I need to know how to take her back to my apt and fuck her, but I don't want any strings attached. She has already told me she wants just sex from me, but I know she is needy as shit. This is most likely just a ploy to try to hook me. She said strait up, "I want you to have sex with me on your bike, and I want to rev it up." Oh god I want that, but I don't want the strings.

What should I do? How is this going to affect my chances with other girls? Also I want to have a threesome with her.

P.S. The Head chief was a mid 30’s ghetto, ugly, black dude, and after he got drunk he was saying really vulgar things at the dinner table, and she was obviously not enjoying his company. Then when I went to the restroom he asks the 7 for her number. This was to be expected since I really don’t care about her, and I’m sure he sensed that, but then she gives the number to him. She says like it’s just because I’m really nice, and I have a hard time saying no. This is the kind of shit I don’t really think is appropriate. I mean yea I just want to fuck you, but still. Can she not give her number out to someone she has no intention of talking to? She tried to blame me saying it was my fault for leaving her alone.

P.S.#2 Sorry for the lack of grammer. I'm really tired. Please correct my writing if you feel like helping a fellow player out, and PM with the corrections. I just don't understand the comma placement, with subordinating conjuctions, and all that jazz. I will gladly give a my one and only point to anyone who want's to do that.

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Dude, don't ONLY talk to the hottest girls and ignore everybody else. The HB's notice that shit and bring the Bitch Shields to full power. That's why you're getting called out so much on your routines, if a girl is into you she can recognize the routine and not give a fuck, just dig on your vibe. Part of the idea is to be a more social PERSON, and that means talking to everyone. I almost hesitate to give you advice, as from these posts, you really seem like a genuinely douchey human being. Aside from that though, if you were a hot girl and you saw a fat girl walk up to a guy; would you think he was cooler if they had a short convo and the fat girl left with a smile, or if he just blew her off. Girls watch; and they do notice shit like this. When you are truly a fun and social person that can party with everyone, the girls chase you. Then you can say, as I read in a recent post, "I do not need social proof, I AM social proof."

I have to humble myself. That is hard to do.

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I know what you mean, it can be difficult, but alot of times the UG's are the most interesting to talk to. My theory is that very HB's have always had the world handed to them and people drawn to them and therefore never had an adaptive NEED to develop a sense of humor or personality. This is one way how the "obstacles" can really be allies, helping to carry coversation past boring times when the Target isn't being interesting.

Yo mag, I read your date post and had some thoughts:

You know why she tells you shit right? She's trying to control you. Don't let it happen. Say shit like, "Yeah.... and?" Like, yeah, my last girlfriend was bi and she was cooler and sexier about it.

Chicks are never desperate for sex. They're OFTEN desperate for control. Until they find a sap.

Good move on the Dutch.

HAHA! Quality "leader of men" shit with the head chef. That's more cash money than a routine.

YOU SET THE MOTHER FUCKING RULES!! NOT HER! If you want to fuck her on your bike, you do it when YOU want to. Not just because she wants to. The number one weapon women hold over men is our desire to fuck them. If we take that away, we take away their strength and now they're just frightened little girls. Spoiled little girls.

Mag, as soon as you found out about the chef asking for her number you should have flipped. Doesn't matter if she's your girl. He didn't know and she shouldn't have dissed you like that. I'd have cut her off from my company for a hot minute.

There is some shit you don't care about (her trying to fuck with your head by talking about the bike and saying she's bi) and there's other shit you DO care about (anyone interfering on your "territory"). Whether she's your girlfriend or not, you're with her, she's in your realm, she's got the potential of being your gf so DON'T FUCK WITH HER YOU FAT BLACK BASTARD (much love to my brothers from another).


Your shit is your shit, even if other assholes don't know. Protect it like your shit.

- Hit

Holy shit. That is one of the best fucking lines I have heard on this website. That just puts so much perspective on things. That will officially be my sig.