ok so.. im kinda new... if this is a stupid question let me know... only 19 so bars are seldom for me... i ussually hang and have small house partys over friends houses.. so most of the girls i meet at these things are friends of friends... i live in SI NY most of the girls around are hot but are pretty bitchy and dont respond well to anything corny... any good suggestions some help with good openers and DHVs would be awwsome...

ive been reading alot around the site and i feel like alot of this stuff works differently on different age groups of girls.. this is all just my first impression i havent gotten to test anything that much yet... am i right on that or do i just sound like an AFC?

NickRicca welcome to the forum.

The difference between age groups probably isn't as drastic as what you may be thinking or expecting. However, the calibration really takes place between each individual girl.

Sure, the area you are in may have girls with bigger bitch shields, so you just have to adjust your frame and figure out how to cut through the girl's bullshit. That's what it boils down to. You cut straight through her bullshit. Throw things back at her verbally. Start ping ponging with her and get her to play around.

You're using warm approaches right now also, so your status with your peer group will have an impact on how receptive the girl is too. Not that you can't change that first impression, but if your status is not high, which I suspect it's not, then you'll have more work to do.

thanks man... i have alotta reading to do... ill post you back some time in the future with some actual field tested info...