Hey everyone, I had gone out with this girl about a week ago without making a move at the end of the date. Since then I have been following some good texting tips and seem to have kept her interest. However, I have a couple of concerns;

1. How do I let her know it's a date the next time we go out so she doesn't think we are just going as friends?

2. How do I know when it's right to make a move on her?

3. Also, I learned through a mutual friend that she was talking about this other guy and apparently likes him. How do I make myself her number 1 priority over this other guy?

I'm very stressed and really like this girl. Any tips will help. Thank you.

KINO. Kiss her. She'll know it's a date if you escalate. If you don't, you may as well be her brother.

IOIs... pay attention to what she's doing. If she looks engaged , looks like she's having a great time, and most importantly is responding positively to your kino (touch her lots man...) then you kiss her. You do not have to wait for the end of the date.

Assume the other guy isn't going to be a pussy. Assume he WILL escalate on his date with her. You need to do the same. Show her a great time, and convey your interest in her physically (for the love of god, don't tell her you like her or want to be her boyfriend)...

wtf why didnt you make a move, Im not sure she wants to see again

1) if there is a next, then make the move, kiss her hold her hand, stop being a little girl about it.
2)there isnt just grab her face and kiss it
3)can you blame her? he wants a guy whos going to take what he wants, im sure that other guy is going to try to fuck her. you want to her first priority? fuck her, and keep making her chase you by not ever being completely sold on her.


this sounds harsh but you have to grow a pair if you want to be taken seriously man, if you dont think that you are the fucking champ, no one else will

You should always be thinking, "When is the time to kiss her?" - remember, attempting won't make the girl dislike you more - if anything the opposite.

For example today, I was out with a sorority sister, and we were walking back after I got a beer and had a burger (she is too young to drink publicly), and we passed by her house and I had a window where I could kiss her, and I didn't time it well, but then we walked around a bit more, went into an all night open public building, where we sat on a couch and I attempted to kiss her repeatedly. During that time she wasn't upset or bothered by it - as long as you don't try to force it and you respect when she pushes you away/moves away from the kiss, you're fine.

I attempted to kiss her probably 6-10 times while we were hanging out, and she only went with it at the very end of the night - a typical move from a girl that is attempting to extract greater investment/commitment out of you.

Thanks guys the issue for me is that this is a girl I've known for a couple of years and she recently broke up with her boyfriend. As soon as she said that I asked her out without actually saying it's a date so I don't know what that means... Also our mutual friend thinks she likes this other guy, so what can I do to know that she doesn't think of me as a friend and I'm not wasting my time with asking her out again?

Get out of your own head, for starters.

Nothing you can do if she likes another guy, but be the best guy you can be.

Get her out, and escalate as we've said.

It'll either work, or it won't, and you'll have your answer one way or another.

So she likes another guy - does that mean the other guy likes her? Does that mean she has any chance whatsoever with the guy at all?

Just because a girl, "likes a guy" doesn't necessarily mean anything. It might mean nothing happens, it might mean they hook up, it might mean they start dating seriously and become an old married couple with 25 kids.

You don't know.

You cannot let other guys be involved in your decision-making process at all - this other dude literally doesn't matter. You shouldn't bring him up or think about him. If you're the prize, and she should be lucky to have you (as your thinking should be), why does this other guy matter to you at all? He is your inferior, and she is unaware that a higher value man is interested in her (you).


If you ask a girl out, it is a date. Regardless if it's, "hanging out", "going for coffee", "grabbing a bite to eat" - it's a date, or at least a pre-date. If you like her, escalate (kiss the girl! Preferably after playing flirting/touching her). The worst she can do is say no/stop it. If she says no, she's not interested in you that way, you have your answer. If you still see value having her in your life, keep her in it, if you don't (and there are no social repercussions for doing so), drop her. Next.

Your time is valuable, isn't it? Girls don't respect commitment sluts.