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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:14 am 
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Being dominant IS NOT conducive to healthy relationships. It may work for one night stands and casual hookups, but it smacks against every piece of legitimate research on establishing healthy partnerships. Dominance is ego based, relationships, albeit healthy ones are more egalitarian and less about power dynamics. You've got a lot to learn. This is why most PUA is virtually useless for entering LTRs. You're likely quite young and/or very inexperienced in LTRs.

Dominance means leading. LTR, hookup, casual dating, whatever it is, woman respond to men being men. Men lead. Now I'm not talking about being a controlling dick in a relationship. I'm not talking about being a tyrant and not listening. What I am talking about is leading a woman. Sorry, it's not 50/50. The feminists scream this, but unfortunately this is not how women, even modern women work. They don't want to make the 50% of the decisions, they don't want to dominate you sexually 50% of the time. It's ironic you say I must be young, because this is actually old school thinking. The sensitive, "she's my partner" thing is more of a younger denatured male generation thing.

As you said before, girls hold their female friends hands too. Well, maybe that's your style, but I'm not holding my girls hand the same way her girl friend does. I'm not gonna be a girl friend with a penis. As society continues to make men less dominant and more sensitive, unhappy relationships/divorce increase. This is not ego to say "I'll take care of you....you're protected." When you lead a girl, you allow her to be a woman which is what she wants, and to feel safe, protected and cared for. She doesn't want to feel like she's your friend.


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Being dominant IS NOT conducive to healthy relationships. It may work for one night stands and casual hookups, but it smacks against every piece of legitimate research on establishing healthy partnerships. Dominance is ego based, relationships, albeit healthy ones are more egalitarian and less about power dynamics. You've got a lot to learn. This is why most PUA is virtually useless for entering LTRs. You're likely quite young and/or very inexperienced in LTRs.

Dominance means leading. LTR, hookup, casual dating, whatever it is, woman respond to men being men. Men lead. Now I'm not talking about being a controlling dick in a relationship. I'm not talking about being a tyrant and not listening. What I am talking about is leading a woman. Sorry, it's not 50/50. The feminists scream this, but unfortunately this is not how women, even modern women work. They don't want to make the 50% of the decisions, they don't want to dominate you sexually 50% of the time. It's ironic you say I must be young, because this is actually old school thinking. The sensitive, "she's my partner" thing is more of a younger denatured male generation thing.

As you said before, girls hold their female friends hands too. Well, maybe that's your style, but I'm not holding my girls hand the same way her girl friend does. I'm not gonna be a girl friend with a penis. As society continues to make men less dominant and more sensitive, unhappy relationships/divorce increase. This is not ego to say "I'll take care of you....you're protected." When you lead a girl, you allow her to be a woman which is what she wants, and to feel safe, protected and cared for. She doesn't want to feel like she's your friend.
Another strange frame I care to not indulge in. Whatever works for you.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:49 pm 
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Why do you care about what others are thinking about when you're with a girl, especially a girlfriend?

I personally couldn't give a shit if some other dude/girl finds it awkward/gay that I'm holding my girlfriends hand. Personally I think you're a mix of what neo87 is saying and what you're saying.

It's all perfectly well and good to hold hands in a mutual way. It's also all well and good to be dominant when out with your girlfriend/whatever.

Personally I think you're both over thinking it. You can still lead without "physically" pulling her around.


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Why do you care about what others are thinking about when you're with a girl, especially a girlfriend?

I personally couldn't give a shit if some other dude/girl finds it awkward/gay that I'm holding my girlfriends hand. Personally I think you're a mix of what neo87 is saying and what you're saying.

It's all perfectly well and good to hold hands in a mutual way. It's also all well and good to be dominant when out with your girlfriend/whatever.

Personally I think you're both over thinking it. You can still lead without "physically" pulling her around.
Yes. Hence I said it is my opinion. There are mannerisms that I may do that someone else may find weird or awkward and there is nothing wrong with them seeing it that way. Regardless, holding hands is not what the op should be focusing on right now. This is not his girlfriend.


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Thank you evryone, specialy Versalis and Hellhound.

Neo87 what sould I be thinking?


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Whether holding hands with a girl is gay or not depends on the type of grip.

If you have the top grip (with your fingers pointing down at the ground) and you are leading the girl, then it's manly.

If you have bottom grip (with your hand in the 'handshake' position) and you are following the girl, then it's submissive and gay.


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I agree with neo87

Modern men have no balls as they have been castrated by a socially engineered feminist driven society.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:50 pm 
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I agree with neo87

Modern men have no balls as they have been castrated by a socially engineered feminist driven society.
Or the playing field has become equalized.

I was however thinking the other day that the world has become "too safe" for both men and women.

History tells that that during certain periods life was essentially about survival. The Wild West, World Wars, Medieval period and such and such. Now these days everything's too "safe" its boring. Which is why IMO the business world has become more intense. Money has become the new danger, if you play the game right you survive, if you lose...you lose everything.

Unfortunately business life...bores...the...shit...out...of...me. So Imma go travelling.

The sooner the space age cowboy period becomes a reality the better.


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Thank you evryone, specialy Versalis and Hellhound.

Neo87 what sould I be thinking?
How to have sex with escalate physically with her. Holding hands is a very small step. Have you kissed this girl?


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How to have sex with escalate physically with her. Holding hands is a very small step. Have you kissed this girl?
It's counter intuitive. You can actually get girls to suck your cock without kissing them first. Of course, the standard approach is to kiss a girl first before things get exciting.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:47 pm 
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Whether holding hands with a girl is gay or not depends on the type of grip.

If you have the top grip (with your fingers pointing down at the ground) and you are leading the girl, then it's manly.
Like this:
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Otherwise it's gay.

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