Sup guys?! Sent this message to a pua friend of mine and I thought I'd put it up here to see what you think...

Had an experience happen to me I thought I'd share with you. I realized I don't go out or approach much, all my game is from online. I seen a guy on here who goes out 2-5 hours a weak is very insecure and can't get girls with high status.

It sorta' made me think there's no hope for me. My issues sorta got worse: depression and insecurities. This changed my personality and took my humor, mental health, and fun vibe. In some ways I'm a natural but its covered by all this sadness and etc. No girl wants to be around it. I'm a really fun and AWESOME person and I don't want this crap to effect me, I wanna do something about it. I'd like to talk with someone that can take time, see what I'm really missing and what mindset I can adopt toward my insecurities. I'm not a victim I'm a winner, its just I have no confidence and feel terrible about myself. There's no quick fix to my issues but I'd like to stay in touch with someone and overcome them. I'm interested in seeing what results I can get actually going in field and seeing what I can do!

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You probably already know that you can become more confident by acting confident, faking it till you make it...? If not, here is a short explanation.

As emotions are associated with certain muscle memories, you will act as you feel. If you feel sad, you will look sad. If you feel insecure, you will act insecure, and your whole body will have a sad, submissive posture. The good thing about this is that it works the other way around too. By forcing yourself to smile, you will automatically start to feel a little bit more happy. By forcing yourself to have a confident posture, you will start to feel a little bit more confident. By forcing yourself to look people in the eye... Well, you get the point.

That is why your "career" as a PUA should always begin with your body language. Keep going out, and keep faking that smile and confident attitude until you actually become happier and more confident.

One little warning though... As a beginner in the game, you will probably think every reaction you get is due to you, as if it is your fault only (I used to think so at least). After all, that is what is being taught in the community - that you should take responsibility for everything that happens, as if it is your fault that some random girl doesn't get attracted by you, as if you are supposed to be able to seduce anyone. Nothing could be further from the truth. Such beliefs will only make you more depressed.

There is this thing called chemistry, there are pheromones, personal preferences on how someone should look, mental issues and so on. All these things are out of your control. With that said, I want to give you a tip. Don't spend your time and energy on people who aren't worth it, no matter how hot the girl is. If they are not nice, ignore them. Otherwise you will feel bad and become depressed (again). Since you are supposed to see yourself as the price, the girl must make the effort to earn your liking. Only focus on people who make you feel good about yourself!

the biggest factor is going to be the depression, I understand what you are saying about women don't want to be around it. people who have never had it, or not able to understand much about it. It's not actually a negative emotion but more of an emptiness. Im gonna eat whatever it doesn't matter, waking up just to wait to go back to sleep. theirs nothing on tv. everytime I go out everyones looking down, when you are depressed the entire world looks depressed to you. so when someone whose smiling or seems very happy comes along you either feel the need absorb that energy, see it as being fake, or try to even bring them down from it.

One of the things Ive been working on is pretending to be happy about everything, I find my smile is more natural, people actually seem to smile and look up when im around. and being a bit more creative.

have you ever met someone who had a big grin on their face and just knew it was fake. but they continued it anyways? fake it till you make it

Thanks for your response guys. Zirk, you seem to really understand depression it's a lot like that, sometimes I hate seeing ppl so jolly or smiling.

I have no problem with faking it till you make it, but girls through tests at you and you can't lie them. I feel I don't have the body or lifestyle to back up any confidence - If I have no faith in the product how can I sell it?
What would make me feel better: if a girl felt attracted to me, accepted me and said good things about me...

I feel highly unnatractive and what made me depressed is a girl seen all of these things and started comparing me to other guys. I don't want my depression and insecurities to beat me, I want to be my old self again.

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that goes back to someone who has depressions or feels they have it, sees someone smiling, or popular, or aka a pretty girl and feel the need to absorb it. It's a false mindset because in a sense you have already put this person male or female on a pedestal and when they dont measure up to the energy you originally felt they had or possed that good feeling is gonna backfire, you will take any negative sign from them as a rejection.

people are random they say and do things that make no fucking sense to anyone else but themselves. it's in our nature to seek out value to benifit ourselves, thats why when we see a hot girl we go crasy. dont seek out this value to increase your happiness you need to sit down from an unrelationship perspective and ask about your life. are you doing the things you want to, do you have negative people (ie saying negative things about you to you), can you think of things that make you smile with entertainment value, do you find yourself putting of things till tommorow instead of today such as doing dirty clothes, are you happy with your education, are you happy with your job

measure yourself based on what you want, not what other people have or seem to think you should want.

yes often times depression is triggered by an emotional event, death in the family, girl you really wanted, failing classes etc, even can manifest itself with all of these things happening at once but thats a part of life, if everything was perfect all the time no one would leave the fucking house

I havent read any of your posts so I dont know your gameplan, but whoever it is, even with the girls, make the interaction happy and not the person happy. you will find that other people look for others to make their lives happy to. if your going to the club for example instead of gaming the girl say hey lets go meet these people as your talking to the girl, ask the girl which guy she thinks is hot over there, or hell play stupid and ask her what do people do in bars im so lost here (smiling). the idea isnt playing with them (physically) but playing with them mentally. girls just want to have fun, but so do guys we just have the miserable job of going first