There is a common misconception among our community. The belief that we shouldn't be paying for women for any reason. While this is generally a great approach, there are some basic flaws to this logic. I'm not going to get into the reasons why this is a bad approach, but rather go into examples of when you should be paying for a female.

1) pay for her as a reward. If she just gave you great sex, take her to her favorite ice cream place. Obviously, don't pay for her every time she does something right. Keep it a treat.

2) If money is an object that keeps the 2 of you from meeting or being together you should be paying for her.

3) If she will appreciate that fact that you pay for her meal or ticket, it is ok to pay for her. Obviously, don't pay every time.

4) If you would pay for a friend under the same circumstances, it is ok to pay for her.

5) and obviously if paying for her will get you laid 100% of the time. (prostitutes, escorts, and undersexed women ect) I don't recommend that newbies follow this rule, because often times you won't be able to tell the difference between the girls that will shag, and the girls that pretend they will shag.



What we are avoiding is paying for needy females who don't appreciate us. In other words, we don't want to be used for our ability to provide.

You SHOULDN'T pay for anything for the girl because it will seem as if you are trying to "buy that pussy." No girl wants to feel like a slut (unless they're a hooker. They don't care. But that's not why we're here.)
Pay for her as a reward?! What about your reward for giving her that dope dick? You've got the wrong thought process... Just like the whole "You're the prize" thing works... Your DICK is the prize. That's all she needs to be rewarded with. If you've never fucked a girl and felt like you just did her a favor... You're not fucking them the right way.
If she's broke, you shouldn't invite her to do shit besides come over and hang out at your house. The whole "who pays?" situation can be avoided if you just don't even allow it to happen. Netflix costs a dollar. Make her grab a movie on the way over.
Of course she's going to appreciate it! Who the fuck wouldn't appreciate free shit? If you let someone take advantage of you, they will.
I've got friends that I've known for 15 years... Some GIRL isn't going to get the same SPAM as they are.
You should never pay for pussy. Make them pay for your dick if anything. Totally doable.

You're using your ability to provide to get laid... so a girl will use you for your ability to provide. Be the fun guy who they can just fuck and then go back to their boyfriends. Don't pay for pussy in ANY way.

Man, I knew I would get some resistance from the community for this post, but you need to think about what i'm saying. Living by the rule "never pay for anything for a female" isn't an optimal strategy. You are one of the smarter guys on here Majik.

I hope you listen to the following with an open mind before committing to a rebuttal:


1) if we took a survey of all the girls you have been intimate with (which judging by your sound knowledge of the game, will be a decent sized list) they probably aren't nearly as satisfied with your sexual performances as you think they are. Yes, we are the prize, but holding out money and resources for a woman, especially after you have already had sex with her is a dick move.

2) Here is a scenario for you. You live in Denver and you are talking to a HB 9.5 from dallas. She is completely down to record a sex tape of you and her together. Her boyfriend cheated on her and she wants to mail it to him. She will do anything you want in the video, but you have to buy her ticket to Denver bc she is dead broke and you work 6 days a week. Do you turn down the opportunity? Maybe you have a small dick and you don't want it on camera, but you definitely aren't going to pass up some 9.5 pussy for 120$ plane ticket knowing you never have to see her again if you don't want.

Think about this.. you recently met a girl that you actually dig and want to fuck, but she is too broke to do anything. Yeah you can invite her to your house, or you can pay for her shit and have a fun night on the town. Either way you get laid, but one is more fun for both of you.

3) Not every girl appreciates a free meal, at least in the way I mean appreciate. If a woman is underappriciated, or undersexed, and buying her shit will get you laid, why not?

4) You don't always have to pay for her stuff but don't be a dick about it. Don't act like a selfish prick and treat her like she means less to you than your basic friends.

5) I mostly agree with you here as I generally date girls who pay for my shit, but there are times when it is ok to spend money on a girl.



Using your ability to provide to get laid isn't a bad thing. Using your ability to provide to get laid, and not getting laid, is the bad thing.

Anyway, i'm not advocating that all the guys on the forum should start buying and paying for shit. I'm just saying the generally mindset of the PUA gives us a bad reputation and makes us look like selfish assholes. Sometimes paying for shit can benefit you, but as a generally newbie rule, don't pay for anything.