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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:20 pm 
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JakeP, you're giving bad advice.

What you've done here is made this guy show his girlfriend he's beta as fuck. "I'm too weak to take a joke please stop." Yeah, talking about something stupid that you're not mature enough to handle might stop her behaviour for a short while but it does a lot of damage in the long run. Eventually the girl loses respect, can't have fun, finds you boring, controlling and moves on.

OP, you have inner issues. You need to address them not make a woman stop doing these things just to make you happy. It's a different matter if your gf is hanging out of guys or flirting with them, that's fine. Feel free to be annoyed over that.. but over simple jokes? It's mad, dude. Don't let anyone else tell you to be beta with a chick when it comes to this. You need to be Alpha and being alpha is addressing your own issues head on and fixing them. Your issue here is inner game: Fix that, not alter your girlfriend as a quick fix.
"I'm too weak to take a joke please stop."

If that's what you've gathered from the advice I've been giving him, you're not paying attention.
I have advised him that this is simply how some women are - and I quote myself: "I agree, OP could probably stand to let things roll off his shoulders a little more, but if he genuinely doesn't like dealing with someone with a more aggressive personality, it's not his personality defect, it's just how he is."
That said, I also in another post, advised him to date more mature women if he's getting tired of excessive joking. The problem with your paradigm, GamesSN, is that you're assuming that the OP should try and handle it as you'd handle it; you're trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Some men are better equipped to deal with women like that: you are probably one of them. You are not necessarily not built for "game" if you're not one of those guys, you just might have a different type of woman you're more attracted to. Lots of people simply don't like dealing with immature personalities. You might see the joking it as no big deal - someone like OP might simply see it as annoying - there's no need to "fix your inner game" if this is the case. That's like telling someone who can't get into a certain kind of music (say, Opera) that they need to work on themselves and MAKE themselves like it, as if Opera were the only kind of music available. Instead of forcing yourself to continue to listen to it, why wouldn't you just listen to something you yourself like more? Just as there are many other types of music to listen to that will give you more pleasure, there are many different types of women that will please you more and are more up your alley. Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks. Applies to women, too. I don't see why you and other posters keep trying to force him to stay in a relationship if he's been in it for two years and isn't happy with something as fundamental as his partner's temperament. He's not going to change her What it comes down to, if he is to stay in this relationship is altering his behavior to induce a change in her behavior, not forcing himself to change to put up with a personality he doesn't like. That is what is "beta": changing yourself for a particular woman. She should be a guest in your reality, not vice-versa.


Not only that, but since I don't know OP personally, I have also suggested that maybe another possible approach for him would be this, which as you can see is far from suggesting he act like a "beta", as you call it, but that he simply stop investing so much emotional energy into her - instead of telling him to change his personality traits that seem perfectly reasonable (i.e. not wanting to put up with what many people, not just OP would describe as immature behavior), I've told him how he could handle it in a way that involves changing his behavior with regards to her without tearing him down and telling him he needs to change his personality:

"3.) You realize you don't want to give her up for the sex or for other reasons just yet. You stop giving a shit. You realize she's not "the one". You know it all ultimately doesn't matter, because she'll wind up just another notch on your bedpost. You give her shit right back when she gives you shit, but it's in an assertive, almost deadpan fashion because you genuinely don't care that much about her or her acting like a shithead anymore. She picks up on this, realizes you're in charge and backs off. The sex gets better. She gets quieter and is happier with you. She's raw clay in your hands. You now have all the power. You've given up trying to tame her and simply focus on your own happiness and maintaining your own dignity. She's just along for the ride. Then something happens. You realize she is too easy. There are hotter girls out there and your stock is high. You don't care because you can get a girl whenever you want to, and one that's hotter, better at sex and has a better personality. You just need to stop caring, be willing to lose her, and then you will gain her and everyone else. Stop trying so hard."


The key to dealing with people you don't get along with is changing your behavior towards them, not trying to change your personality or theirs. You can waste a lifetime trying to change someone (as many married people have figured out the hard way), so why not try to take a different approach towards that person instead of trying to change two fundamentally constant things (his and her personalities)? Water goes around the boulder, it doesn't blast right through it.

OP, focus on what makes yourself happy, regardless of whether this woman is going to come along or not instead of taking advice from strangers that call you an "emotionally insecure dick" without ever having met you. You will never get anywhere by trying to change yourself to be with or stay with a particular woman. You either need to put her in her place and change her behavior or move on. Either way, continue to be yourself and ask if this is what you really want.
So you advocate keeping my principles but letting it slide more and giving it back to her deadpan. Can you give me an example?

Her:what are you looking at?
me: nothing much
Her: nothing much is right
ME: (what would I say?)


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