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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:47 am 
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Hello Gentleman, It is nice to finally be making a post on this forum, as I have shadowed it for several years. I don't want to go into too much detail about myself except to make it clear that although I am new to posting in this forum, I am certainly what you would call a master pick up artist. I am 23 years old and I have been studying the game for 6 years. I turned my hobby into a profession when I was 18 by becoming a world renowned male exotic dancer and escort. I was featured on national television and such several times. I have banged 100's of women. My game however, is not flawless. I decided to retire from the career I had built on seducing women last year and start a normal life. I have a very good career for my age now, running a contracting business. I have my own house, vehicles, the works. I'm naturally very good looking and an obvious alpha male. But, the sad truth is gentleman, that its all meaning less and less to me every day. I recently moved back to my home town after having been away, traveling and working for almost 5 years. It's a great city with many beautiful women... yet I have hit a speed bump. Although, I am known everywhere I go and it would seem by PUA logic that every girl would want me, I am having more trouble with young women here than I have ever had. Last night for example I visited a popular local bar... there were probably 30 people there from my highschool and it turned into one huge party. I'm known by all of my old peers as "the famous guy", the one who made it, the successful one. I spoke with several attractive females in our groups but none of them were appropriate targets for me except for one. And just like has been happening every time lately, she cold shouldered me. She was polite in a sense. I bought her a drink. Then later facebooked her to ask her out, and she didn't even respond. Another girl who I met through another group of friends last week, made out with me that night, and now is playing the short, hard to get, not interested game on me HARD. WTF IS GOING ON!?!? I apologize for the wall of text but I don't get it. I'm still getting laid, but the girls I'm really lusting after seem afraid of me. It's almost as if my reputation has destroyed my chances. These are not girls I would want to wife yet, they are gorgeous, young playful girls. I am successful and mature for our age. I just want to fuck. I am used to being able to fuck any women I want. Am I just experiencing a more realistic seduction lifestyle for the first time, or am I making some crucial mistake? One of my friendgirls who is a HB8 here did tell me that the young girls here probably think I am coming on too strong and they are not used to that. But, I am not about wasting time or playing games. Help me figure out what the issue is here gentleman? Sorry again, for the wall of text. I am a very confused veteran at this point. The whole game is not making any sense.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:52 pm 
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Hello Gentleman, It is nice to finally be making a post on this forum, as I have shadowed it for several years. I don't want to go into too much detail about myself except to make it clear that although I am new to posting in this forum, I am certainly what you would call a master pick up artist. I am 23 years old and I have been studying the game for 6 years. I turned my hobby into a profession when I was 18 by becoming a world renowned male exotic dancer and escort. I was featured on national television and such several times. I have banged 100's of women. My game however, is not flawless. I decided to retire from the career I had built on seducing women last year and start a normal life. I have a very good career for my age now, running a contracting business. I have my own house, vehicles, the works. I'm naturally very good looking and an obvious alpha male. But, the sad truth is gentleman, that its all meaning less and less to me every day. I recently moved back to my home town after having been away, traveling and working for almost 5 years. It's a great city with many beautiful women... yet I have hit a speed bump. Although, I am known everywhere I go and it would seem by PUA logic that every girl would want me, I am having more trouble with young women here than I have ever had. Last night for example I visited a popular local bar... there were probably 30 people there from my highschool and it turned into one huge party. I'm known by all of my old peers as "the famous guy", the one who made it, the successful one. I spoke with several attractive females in our groups but none of them were appropriate targets for me except for one. And just like has been happening every time lately, she cold shouldered me. She was polite in a sense. I bought her a drink. Then later facebooked her to ask her out, and she didn't even respond. Another girl who I met through another group of friends last week, made out with me that night, and now is playing the short, hard to get, not interested game on me HARD. WTF IS GOING ON!?!? I apologize for the wall of text but I don't get it. I'm still getting laid, but the girls I'm really lusting after seem afraid of me. It's almost as if my reputation has destroyed my chances. These are not girls I would want to wife yet, they are gorgeous, young playful girls. I am successful and mature for our age. I just want to fuck. I am used to being able to fuck any women I want. Am I just experiencing a more realistic seduction lifestyle for the first time, or am I making some crucial mistake? One of my friendgirls who is a HB8 here did tell me that the young girls here probably think I am coming on too strong and they are not used to that. But, I am not about wasting time or playing games. Help me figure out what the issue is here gentleman? Sorry again, for the wall of text. I am a very confused veteran at this point. The whole game is not making any sense.
Since you have a similar age, background etc... of mine, i would advise you to follow most of my stuff, i think you will benefit a lot, since my style will be congruent with you, instead of following styles that may not fit the way you are/age etc... Also if you could pm when you have the time, how to become an exotic dancer/escort with your take and your experience, i would love to feature it in my blog(due this after reading my blog and youtube videos please).... There is nothing wrong with your goals and mission, something in your style is turning women off, do not listen to women when it comes to seduction, you just wrote a lot without, what is your sticking point or specific problem...

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:36 pm 
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Thanks for your response, and I definitely will check your stuff out and share some inside info with you. Sounds fun. I think the fact that, being back in my home city and having been on tv and being known as a dancer/player and all that, effects my game with the women here. Almost every girl I have gone after since being back knows this about me and I imagine that playing the same game I always have is not going to work the same since many of the women I approach around here are going to have several social ties and connections to me. So in that sense, yes I definitely have been screwing up. I need to refine my game now and step up. Its hard to narrow down the specific sticking point. I can get the numbers, or chat at the bar, or on facebook or whatever with ease. But, its when I try to push any further into building attraction, it either gets quite on their end, or they start getting short, or even freeze me out. Same situation in the bar, on facebook, anywhere... The thing is though, that Im still having plenty of success as well. I'm pulling some bad bitches man. So maybe I am just spoiled, but it's pissing me off that I keep hitting this same wall with the same demographic of young, local girls. Perhaps because of my reputation, I need to move much slower with the girls around here. A less is more kind of thing. Any help is always appreciated.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:08 pm 
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Thanks for your response, and I definitely will check your stuff out and share some inside info with you. Sounds fun. I think the fact that, being back in my home city and having been on tv and being known as a dancer/player and all that, effects my game with the women here. Almost every girl I have gone after since being back knows this about me and I imagine that playing the same game I always have is not going to work the same since many of the women I approach around here are going to have several social ties and connections to me. So in that sense, yes I definitely have been screwing up. I need to refine my game now and step up. Its hard to narrow down the specific sticking point. I can get the numbers, or chat at the bar, or on facebook or whatever with ease. But, its when I try to push any further into building attraction, it either gets quite on their end, or they start getting short, or even freeze me out. Same situation in the bar, on facebook, anywhere... The thing is though, that Im still having plenty of success as well. I'm pulling some bad bitches man. So maybe I am just spoiled, but it's pissing me off that I keep hitting this same wall with the same demographic of young, local girls. Perhaps because of my reputation, I need to move much slower with the girls around here. A less is more kind of thing. Any help is always appreciated.

Okay i got it, the problem is your are burned (most girls know you are a player, or have been with one of their friends or somebody they know, they do not want to be sloppy seconds), it happened to me in couple of cities to the point i had to move or game in other cities, it is actually happening to me kind of right now... You still can hook up, but you got a put in more numbers/effort... My advise is move to other city or game in places were people don't know you. If you do not want to follow that advise just put in more numbers/effort.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:56 pm 
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"I bought her a drink. Then later facebooked her to ask her out"; that seems a little out of context for a succesfull dancer/pua master :) but anyhow

A. why are you trying with your old high school friends, i find it nearly impossible to get with people that have known me so long.

B. Since you are 23 I believe you are using the wrong aproach. The way you present it is like a high school party trying to make out and trying to score with good looks. Women that age are just out of college, they are not looking to get drunk and get late fast anymore (it depends a bit on the region). You may want to try a more subtile approach, the whole isolate her to a friendly location, talk to her and listen to what she has to say really pays off, and then switch to fun stuff, then meet up for a date, then have her cook for you, then sleep over, ...

you get the idea, but give some proof that your sincere first, they arent 18 anymore

C there is that, or you could visit some collegeparties, good looks and dancing should get you late anyday


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:44 am 
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The advice is really making a difference guys. My game is tightening right back up. Had a few bad ones this week actually. All 9/10's.

But A) I'm not trying with old highschool friends. Me and all my boys are straight G's around here bro. We drop thousands at a bar between our group sometimes every night for weeks. Every where I go I'm going to bump into girls that know me and have connections to my social circle. These seem like good potential targets. Any hot girl that I like is a good potential target.

B) Youre right I think. And I was thinking about how much more valuable hooks can sometimes be than a quick one night stand anyways. :) I just need to lay back a little more in these sets. I gotta say though, the chicks around here are fucking fine guys. I love this location.

I bought her a drink as a way to dismiss us from a group of probably 20 of our friends and inside everything was fine until she went to the bathroom. She came out cold after that. Bitch used me for a drink. lol. I probably deserved it though. HA!


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