I will just lay it out flat for ya. I will post both in here instead of making 2 threads.

My college class I noticed this HB9, well, my version of a HB9. It is a small class and the only opportunity to really chit chat is like 5 minutes before the class. During this discussion and chatter amongst our classmates before class, this HB9 would give me 0 IOIs. I am a master when it comes to body language yet this chick was giving me nothing.

Obviously I was taking a conservative method by passively pursuing. It is not easy to do it aggressively in a small class and have that awkwardness the entire year if she rejects you.

She is friends with other people in the class and responds to the classroom banter before class with them all the time, and even other strangers. Perhaps my topic of discussion is just not interesting to her.

However, the last 3 classes, I notice that she has been chatting me up. Just stupid, non-important stuff. But still, this came from left field. Before class when we pass each other in the halls her face lights up and she gives me the biggest smile and says Hi. I think that has a lot to do with her personality, though.

I don't see her anywhere outside my class. The only time I ever have the chance to talk to her is like the 3-5 minutes before class.

Sadly, I don't even know her name. I was thinking of stopping her in the hall way the next time I see her before the class and saying, "Hey, I don't think we have ever exchanged names." I think that is lame, and I did not build up to it and it can be awkward just starting a convo like that.

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Part II Okcupid Girl

I've been messaging this HB8. We are both into traveling and she asked me about place X. I told her and I said that I want to here about her travels and that we should grab a beer and then I proceeded to ask her for her phone number.

She responds with "give me a reason why and I will give you my number"

For one, I've never asked this on Okcupid. Usually I get the number, no problem, but I like her playing hard to get.

Any suggestions on how to respond to that one?

1.
You can do a few things to salvage the situation. One - get her name. Go with something "We've been classmates for [period of time] and I don't even know your name. Hi, I'm __________." Two win her friends over before making any moves.

2.
"I would hate for you to miss out on an adventure of your life. But since you put it that way, you need to give me 2 reasons why I should take you there." (I don't really do online dating but it sounds like a shit test. Treat it as such)

Al

Used your advice on #1.

It has turned into a shit-test show now.

After sending pretty much exactly what you wrote, she comes back with something along the lines of...only if you're worth giving my time to...She still didn't give the number

Both are pretty much shit tests. Confidence, humor and playful banter will help you diffuse both. The more grounded you are, the easier it will be.

This video I found in another thread will help you deal with both.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yhNi5OU8FY

Al

Thanks for the vid.

Just want to update you....

I said something along the lines of like "you're fiery, i like that. All this back in forth is great but it's cutting into our dating time. We should be on date number 2 by now.

She said You're confident aren't you haha and then ...123-456-7890

Thanks.

Glad you got past the shit test. You are well on your way. Don't worry about where you "should have been by now." This is not an exact science. Some of the best relationships I had were with girls it took me the longest to seduce.

Keep on updating!

Al