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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:25 pm 
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Hey I was wondering if anybody could help me out or throw me some advice on what to do in this situation, would really appreciate it!

So I met this HB8 (we'll call her Rachel) mid June while she was smoking in her car, asked her for a cigarette as I'd run out while being at Download Festival. She asked about it and we started a conversation. It was all pleasant and nothing really sexual about it.

Then the next day she added me on Facebook. I waited for her to talk to me seeing as she added me and eventually she did. We got flirty, I gave her my number and the flirty texting began. We arranged to go out for a drink so then we did (5 days ago). It was at 2pm at our local pub (she lives round the corner from me). We had a few drinks, talked and laughed, even played a game of pool and there was never any awkward silence. I used the Cube routine on her and had good eye contact, though I think I lacked enough kino to create anything sexual. I got a phone from my mate and I invited Rachel round to another pub where all my old college mates were having a few pints in a couple hours. She said of course she'd love to. We went straight from our local to the other pub where we met my friends. So when we get there we see my mates and her best friend (5) (we'll call her Jade) was there too. So there was Me, three of my college lads (plus one of their girlfriends), Jade and Rachel.

We all had great fun telling stories, making jokes, being silly. It was all very playful and my lad of a mate was winging me pretty well. Telling the stories that made me look good/funny/desirable so I wouldn't look braggy. (bit of DHV there?) We then parted ways after a few more hours because one of my mates was having a party at his house so I said i would go. Rachel and Jade went to the cinema so we said goodbye, hugged and gave each other a kiss on the cheek. I wanted to go for the lips but pussied out because everyone was watching (as you've guessed i'm an AFC trying to turn it around). I went to my mate's party and a couple hours later, Rachel texts me inviting me back to the pub we were before we parted for more drinks. Unfortunately, I had already promised to walk a mate home because he was so drunk. When we walked passed the pub no.2, I rang her and said look outside the pub knowing it would be a pretty funny site seeing two of us carrying our mate back, destroyed. They started laughing and came over the road to talk to me. We chatted and they said they would walk with me. So we walked my friend home and then they walked back to my place with me and we had a couple more drinks. During the walk to mine, Jade said "I love stuff like that cube in the desert thing you showed rachel", so Rachel had obviously been telling Jade about our date. Is this a good thing?? We got to mine and talked until 3am when they left and walked to Rachel's place, but I didn't have a chance to escalate with Rachel because she was with Jade the whole time. All I got was a kiss on the cheek again when they left.

The next day, I was going out for my manager's birthday bash and I saw Rachel all dressed up in pub no.2 from the day before. We hugged and kissed on the cheek again. I told her why I was there and she was going to a club called Hyde. She said it was free entry + 1 free drink so I told her we might meet her there. She knew some of the people I worked with so she was like "omg how do you know him I can't believe you know her too" etc. and then later on we went to Hyde and I saw her across the bar. I thought I'd better not be a mosquito so when she noticed me I gave her a smile and raised my glass to her, she gave a big smile back. (was it a mistake not to talk to her?) about an hour later, a guy is talking to her at the bar (I don't know if it's a friend or someone trying it on) so I walked up to him and introduced myself to him, when he told me his full name, I realised I knew him because I was SPAM with his little brother at uni. We chatted, laughed, shook hands and I walked off back to my friends forgetting to talk to Rachel (was that a bad move too?).

The day after that I talked to her on Facebook chat "good night last night? blah blah" "yeah thanks blah blah, how do you know (SPAM's older brother)" and then I found out they're actually pretty good friends. I haven't spoken to her since that day on facebook chat (3 days ago) because I had my last two shifts at work on the weekend and I started my new job today. So now that that is over with, I want to see her again.

Have I left it too long?
Am I on my way to the FriendZone?
Did I not do well enough in the initial couple of meetings with her to even be in with a shot?
What can I do to turn it around if it's bad and if you reckon I'm in with a chance, what should I do now?

I'd love some feedback from you guys, cheers!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:46 am 
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I'd send her a text and say " come over to my house" or some shit like that. If she doesnt want to, if forget about her. ETHER WAY i'd go sarging and get some new women and some new numbers. Dont obsess over that girl. GET MORE....

Good luck

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Just a note.. Girls talk about everything.. Everything.. It isn't good or bad, its just how girls are.

Now.. not talking to her wasn't the best idea, if you like her, why wouldn't you go grab the bull by the horns and go kick it with her? Standing around playing the nod/smile game isn't going to get you anywhere. Now the goodnews is, this is still in good shape. Its only been 5 days and you only had one day where things were a little off.

My advice to you now is to invite her to something a little more intimate..Like a walk in the park. The pub scene is cool but you've already done that twice. Its time for you guys to connect among a different SPAM. Different venues create different emotions and all of these emotions will be attached to you. It'll also give her more reasons to talk(think about you) about you when she gets up with her friends again.


Invite her out again - just you two and make a move. Good for the kiss no matter how awkward or nervous you feel. If she rejects you "so what" - you weren't going to fuck her if she didn't try. If she accepts it and she likely will, you're one step closer.

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Hey I was wondering if anybody could help me out or throw me some advice on what to do in this situation, would really appreciate it!

So I met this HB8 (we'll call her Rachel) mid June while she was smoking in her car, asked her for a cigarette as I'd run out while being at Download Festival. She asked about it and we started a conversation. It was all pleasant and nothing really sexual about it.

Then the next day she added me on Facebook. I waited for her to talk to me seeing as she added me and eventually she did. We got flirty, I gave her my number and the flirty texting began. We arranged to go out for a drink so then we did (5 days ago). It was at 2pm at our local pub (she lives round the corner from me). We had a few drinks, talked and laughed, even played a game of pool and there was never any awkward silence. I used the Cube routine on her and had good eye contact, though I think I lacked enough kino to create anything sexual. I got a phone from my mate and I invited Rachel round to another pub where all my old college mates were having a few pints in a couple hours. She said of course she'd love to. We went straight from our local to the other pub where we met my friends. So when we get there we see my mates and her best friend (5) (we'll call her Jade) was there too. So there was Me, three of my college lads (plus one of their girlfriends), Jade and Rachel.

We all had great fun telling stories, making jokes, being silly. It was all very playful and my lad of a mate was winging me pretty well. Telling the stories that made me look good/funny/desirable so I wouldn't look braggy. (bit of DHV there?) We then parted ways after a few more hours because one of my mates was having a party at his house so I said i would go. Rachel and Jade went to the cinema so we said goodbye, hugged and gave each other a kiss on the cheek. I wanted to go for the lips but pussied out because everyone was watching (as you've guessed i'm an AFC trying to turn it around). I went to my mate's party and a couple hours later, Rachel texts me inviting me back to the pub we were before we parted for more drinks. Unfortunately, I had already promised to walk a mate home because he was so drunk. When we walked passed the pub no.2, I rang her and said look outside the pub knowing it would be a pretty funny site seeing two of us carrying our mate back, destroyed. They started laughing and came over the road to talk to me. We chatted and they said they would walk with me. So we walked my friend home and then they walked back to my place with me and we had a couple more drinks. During the walk to mine, Jade said "I love stuff like that cube in the desert thing you showed rachel", so Rachel had obviously been telling Jade about our date. Is this a good thing?? We got to mine and talked until 3am when they left and walked to Rachel's place, but I didn't have a chance to escalate with Rachel because she was with Jade the whole time. All I got was a kiss on the cheek again when they left.

The next day, I was going out for my manager's birthday bash and I saw Rachel all dressed up in pub no.2 from the day before. We hugged and kissed on the cheek again. I told her why I was there and she was going to a club called Hyde. She said it was free entry + 1 free drink so I told her we might meet her there. She knew some of the people I worked with so she was like "omg how do you know him I can't believe you know her too" etc. and then later on we went to Hyde and I saw her across the bar. I thought I'd better not be a mosquito so when she noticed me I gave her a smile and raised my glass to her, she gave a big smile back. (was it a mistake not to talk to her?) about an hour later, a guy is talking to her at the bar (I don't know if it's a friend or someone trying it on) so I walked up to him and introduced myself to him, when he told me his full name, I realised I knew him because I was SPAM with his little brother at uni. We chatted, laughed, shook hands and I walked off back to my friends forgetting to talk to Rachel (was that a bad move too?).

The day after that I talked to her on Facebook chat "good night last night? blah blah" "yeah thanks blah blah, how do you know (SPAM's older brother)" and then I found out they're actually pretty good friends. I haven't spoken to her since that day on facebook chat (3 days ago) because I had my last two shifts at work on the weekend and I started my new job today. So now that that is over with, I want to see her again.

Have I left it too long?
Am I on my way to the FriendZone?
Did I not do well enough in the initial couple of meetings with her to even be in with a shot?
What can I do to turn it around if it's bad and if you reckon I'm in with a chance, what should I do now?

I'd love some feedback from you guys, cheers!
you played it well, you didnt come of as needy and that you are actually fun to be with. You value your friendship with your mates because you promise to take care of them even if you blew her off.you establish that you are a fun person with or without her. This is what they see. Now you need to step it up a notch, you need to establish that you want to be more than just friends. If you keeps this up she will surely put you in the friendzone. Time to build (physically and mentally)

"My advice to you now is to invite her to something a little more intimate..Like a walk in the park. The pub scene is cool but you've already done that twice. Its time for you guys to connect among a different SPAM. Different venues create different emotions and all of these emotions will be attached to you. It'll also give her more reasons to talk(think about you) about you when she gets up with her friends again."-Joeyskillz

^ this right here is what you need to do, isolation, just you and her. I find it more helpful if you project your intention from the get go. If you are looking to just have fun,let her know. She will appreciate your honesty.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:32 pm 
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Thanks guys! Really appreciate the advice. So Shall I send her a text saying "What you doing tomorrow?" because I usually feel that it's too "I'm really shy and asking" or shall I say something like "you. me. park on saturday" ?


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