I have been gaming this girl online but she had a bf! They recently broke up so I started chatting with her again blah blah blah Well I asked her what she was doing for new years and she said baby sitting alone and that she is going to be bored! I said well maybe if your lucky you will get to see me after I leave my friends party. She gave me her number and told me to call her when i am on my way home! Well I call her she says she is bored! I go over there chat it up a bit for 30 mins then head home which was right down the street. She txt me back and says lets for a ride! I go and we stayed out till like 5 in the morning. Chatting and telling stories but she seems really hard to kino! Yesterday I said I was going for round 2 at my friend house and I invite her! She comes along and It seems a lil easyier to kino! Hugging, Touching her leg pushing her! etc. We are planning on going for wings tomorrow and I am looking for a good way to get her more comofrtable with me so I can Kiss close or more. I am normally good with K-closing at least but she doesn't seem ready for it yet! What can I do?

You go to her place, chat for 30 minutes and go back home? You just showed that you're time isn't valuable and she can waste it.

Then she txts you and wants to go for a ride, and you comply!

Let me guess, you're going to pay for the wings right?

You have a high hill to climb my friend. I'd next this girl and move on.

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ha! worst advice i have ever heard in my life

wings arent expensive, but if you feel its necessary for her to pay, make a bet on something and loser pay, if you feel compelled to pay anyways, lose on purpose, but make it seem genuine.

to the kissing, up the kino, you can try to go for a long walk if its not cold, i dont know where you are, check out the stars, or you can be straight up and just make your moves. Check out the section, i forgot if its day-2's or the one about sealing the deal and closing, but they have tons of stuff about kissing and how to get there

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A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste.
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I appreciate the reply Chio. Yes she invited me over to see her quick. I went. It wasn't her place. So I said when you done msg me. She did! We went for food on our ride, I did pay but I told her next time it is her turn! Anything! I know I did it a bit backwards but she shows me DHV's all the time! I did this and that etc etc etc. I can normally k-close easily but it didn't feel right that last 2 times we hung out! So if i hang with her tomorrow. What can I do to get this going forward to f-close

Thanks xxIcexx for the reply! I will check out your recommendation. Just lil things indicated to take it slow with her. I mean I hugged her the 2nd night teased and push her a bit. put my hands on her shoulder. but I got up and said come with me quick and I put my hand out and she just got up and came along! (I was going to the desk where there is a river behind his house to kiss her if it was right but that through it off) So I joked with her a bit then went back inside because It is freezing in NEPA. haha I had some more kino in the car home. I grab her leg and held it there for a sec then when I dropped her off a lil more kino but no k -close! ehhhhhhhh Anyone else any ideas?

check out these two links, they are from another section here on the forum...the second one should help you out more because there are more replies and motivation in it

ridiculous-kiss-close-and-how-to-k-clos ... 13044.html

i-think-im-gay-because-i-cant-pull-the- ... t9593.html

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I'd rather go out swinging than strike out looking.
A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste.
What I say when I see her is what I'll say.

Ok I took everyones advise and I kinoed the hell out of her! I got her really comfortable. We hung out all night, flirted, she was grabbing my hand to hold it, touching etc. But when i went for a K-close I got the cheek turn move! I kissed her cheek and I tried to smile as much as possible, so it didn't look like I was pissed. She said it was cute and told me she would call me tomorrow. What the heck is that about? Playing hard to get?