I have 2 questions. 1) This seems like a silly thing. Sometimes I feel out of place in college since I'm 27 and most of the girls are 18 -20. I don't want to seem like an creepy old guy. Is there a good starting point for opening lines? Any ideas for fitting in?

2) Is there any good articles or links that I can find out more about IOIs. I few couple of them can be misleading. I sometimes fell that smiles and eye contacts can be misleading to you. They could just happen unconsciously. Like if your working at a customer service your job is to give eye contact and smile. Even waitress at a restaurant. That doesn't mean that every female is having interest in you. Any suggestion or good starting points?? I need help!!!!

Thanks,

czulsk

age is nothing but more experience in life, and thats what you have, you are in no way too old to pick up these girls, get that out of your head this instant

now for a list of IoI's and IoD's

here they are

She reinitiates conversation when you stop talking.
• She giggles.
• She touches you.
• She tries to get rapport and build comfort with you.
• She looks back and glances at you repeatedly every minute or so.
• She tosses her hair (to see if you will look).
• If eye contact happens from a distance, she holds it for a second.
• She smiles at you.
• She stands nearby (proximity).
• She interrupts your conversation from nearby or laughs at
something you said.
• While walking by, she turns her body toward you or brushes
against you.
• She says something to her friend and they both giggle.
• She asks you for a light or the time or in any way initiates a
conversation.
• While you're talking to her group, she is particularly talkative
(to get your attention).
• She asks you for your name.
• She asks you your age. (Make her guess.)
• She compliments you.
• She is playful and tries to challenge you.
• She's disagreeing but laughing.
• She's punching your arm but laughing.
• She uses nicknames for you.
• She plays with her hair while talking to you.
• When she is sitting next to you her leg touches yours.
• She repeatedly touches you in any way.
• She asks if you have a girlfriend.
• She mentions your girlfriend without knowing if you actually
have one.
• When she has to go to the bathroom, she comes back.
• She holds eye contact for longer periods of time when she
speaks with you.
• She avoids mentioning her boyfriend.
• If it comes up that you like something, she mentions that she
likes it, too, or needs someone to show her how to do it.
• When she says or does something, she looks at you to see your
reaction.
• She looks at you from the side, to hide the fact that she's looking.
• She introduces you to friends.
• She buys you a drink.
• She calls you a player or a heartbreaker.
• On her way put, she reapproaches to tell you that she is leaving.
(Get her number.)
• On your way out, she asks you where you are going. (Invite her.)
• She returns your calls.
• She invents reasons to be near you, interact with you, or have
isolation with you.
The most important IOIs to look for are:
• She reinitiates conversation when you stop talking.
• She giggles.
• She touches you.
• She tries to get rapport and build comfort with you.

Passive IoI's
• Her friends go (to the bathroom or bar or dancing), but she
stays.
• She comes to see you and hangs with you for extended periods.
• If you move, she follows you or waits for you.
• She doesn't flinch or pull back if you happen to get too close.
• She doesn't resist when you escalate physically (or she gives token
resistance to avoid feeling like a slut).

IoD's
• Avoidance: She avoids eye contact. She avoids your calls. She
avoids you in general.
• If she can pretend that she didn't hear what you just said, she
will.
• She won't contribute to the conversation.
• She gets impatient easily.
• She walks away or looks away.
• She leans away, turns her back, or talks to someone else.
• She is nonresponsive, or she repetitively says "uh-huh" instead
of giving you a real response.
• She won't move with you, even two feet away. She won't invest.

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A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste.
What I say when I see her is what I'll say.

hmm, I'm sure you could open the same way you would any other girl. Just neg her or something when she makes a comment about your age. Do you look all that much older than them?
Women walking down the street, in a store, or with friends aren't all hired guns. If they (normal women) give you the IOI's then they're real IOI's.

I'm replying to your comment. I already had people think I was already couple years older then them. Like 20-23 usually no older. It just feels odd when your trying partying with them and not feel like an strange old dude. I just would like to bring attention.

if you dont feel comfortable partying with them, then dont party, theres tons of other things to do, even though the parties are where the most social interaction takes place

you are here to push your boundaries, dont be afraid to step over them because you never know, you might like whats on the other side, it might work out, if not, you know what your limits are and you have to figure out what works for you

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I'd rather go out swinging than strike out looking.
A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste.
What I say when I see her is what I'll say.

I understand what your saying. I don't really mind partying with them. I've been already been teased hanging out with some new friends. I guess that's a good IOI? It's just the comfort level I'm trying to build. Since I'm use to hanging with my friends that are my age or little older. Now I'm hanging out with people thats still underage of drinking or just turned the age. Plus trying to adapt to the life style of a college life. I'm use to small community college. By the way thanks for the list of IOIs. Most of the one's I run into is let's just be friends. I need to learn to be more interesting.

Not sure where you are at but be careful with underage drinking.... I have been in to close of a call with this.

You are already peacocking because you are older. Never let someone 'tease' you because of your age. It allows you to be Alpha because you are more experienced.

As for running game- Start reading...........

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Recommended reading list.

Double Your Dating by DD
(This will work on your inner game)

http://www.freewebs.com/xfman/
(This will work on your outer game)

look, i honest to goodness know a 23 year-old who dated a 32 year-old, she now dates a 27 year-old... dont worry about age.

Yeah, I diffidently going need tips on how to be the Alpha male.