Hi guys, wana relay a short version of a set i ran last week with 2 girls i used to work with. After i explain what happened and what im aiming for i'd like to know if i've got Oneitits or if im feeling the effects of not closeing and its normal.

So i used to work at a Vet hospital (animals not war heros ). My mother works there as well. So i went in with her last week on a day off to game 2 chicks i used to work with. Only one of them was there, the one that i figured my chances with were not as great...but this is good i saw it as a challenge.

I started off by paying more attention to everyone else and only paying attention to the target to Neg her. About an hour before their lunch break i was speaking to my mother and my target, holding the frame and directing the flow of the convo until my mother out of no were said, "Why dont you show (Target) your magic tricks?".

So i did, for about 15 mins i did a few tricks...2 card tricks, disappearing quarter trick, esp (3/7...got both ), disappearing cigerette (didnt work but went c & f to make up for it)...

In anycase while on lunch i ran a few DHV stories and caught eye contact with my target a few times.

At the end of the day i directed my attention back to my obsticle (with target present) and told her we should all get together, that one of the other girls there has my number and they should call me for a "reunion"...

So i didnt really expect a call, but i am new and wasnt sure about how to close it out. I also realize i initiated 0 Kino with my target, however i think that was because she was working and my time to run routines and DHV with her were limited.

I have been thinking about it and its burning me up, i know i at least spiked her intrest because my mother told me i was the talk of her work the next day and that my target especially seemed impressed with everything from my style to my DHV (tricks and stories).

So should i give up and move on, and if not how can i get either my target out or the whole set out to like a bar or something so that i can seperate my target and pump buying temp. I dont wana show up again at thier work and hang out, and i dont wana call them at work. I have one girls # but she was not there that day, should i call or text her maybe and try to get them out with some solid plans i setup (ie: i will be at x at x time) and then invite them?

If someone tells me its oneitis ill move on, otherwise i feel like i can still close this and it bothers me to leave it open.

Up until you said this it sounded like one-itis. But with this, either your mom is really wanting you to see this girl, or this girl is more interested than you let on to us. I would say have your mom get her number so you can call her. Then, do call her and "invite" her along for something you're already doing. If that happens, BUILD the kino. Maybe the window is still open with her, maybe not, but you won't know until you push things.

It is not one-itus.. You are just regretting passing up the perfect opportunity to close (which you should have done when you were at lunch)...

You need to recontact her without it being specifically seen as you are trying to contact her. When you do, say that it was a great conversation and you should continue it sometime. # close.

Figure out a way and let us know.

(You said you were old enough to drink? DO NOT have your mother get the number...!!)

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side note: you should integrate kino into your magic tricks.

Do something where she has to participate... maybe even as a form of compliance.

Ok, JUST to clear this up . . . the reason I said to have the mom get the number is because he doesn't want to cause problems by calling the workplace, which IS understandable. Most employers DON'T like that stuff AT all.

I do see the point of it being a DLV to have the mom get the number, but I'm not sure how else he can do that at this point. Considering the mom is the "way in".

Aight sweet so its not really oneits. I was just going threw the story quick, as you see the short version was kinda long.

I am also aware that i should add kino to my DHV (tricks/stories etc). I think i neglected this for 3 reasons:
-Im new
-Just learned the tricks
-She was at work (idk if this really matters)

As a note my mother neither knows that i am a PUA (to be?) nor that i am intrested in this girl. What she said was probably due to a real deal at work the next day. I have drasticlly changed since i worked there, physically, mentally, and in all other aspects.

Also keep in mind i did mention a girl who works there that does have my number. The downside to that is that 2 years ago as a very sad AFC i really went after her and didnt get anywhere. She put her number in my phone and i eventually called her, she would text me back but at some point became disintrested.

So am i better off texting her (as not to seem too intrested) and hopeing she relays things on to her co-workers, getting my mom to relay a message to my Target alone (or to the set?), or something else?(like going in with a pivot, for a breif time?)

Honestly i am probably best served just sarging other girls, but as a matter of pride and such id really like to close this set, even if its just a number close.

**NOTE: i also realize that closeing seems like it may be an issue with me, but SPAM i am very new to gameing and have things in front of that that need tremendous work, so i know i should finish and close...but sometimes other things arent in the picture to accomplish that. Kino is a good example of something i need to work on.

Thanks guys

Anything you do other than getting the number directly is AFC.....Anything at all.

Next week (even two or three) have to deliver something to your mother. Learn a new trick by then (something quick). When you visit your mother, use the new trick as an excuse to see her (to your mother). When you see the target, just make your hellos and then say that you should check out my new trick. After you are finished, tell her that a bunch of friends are getting together and invite her to come. Doesnt matter what, you are going to cancell anyways.
Go for number close.

Later on, call her and tell her that it was cancelled. Tell her that you are not a flake and you two should do something anyways.

Done.......

But, if you really like her, she is not the one to learn how to use the skills. Go find others.

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Thanks good advice. My brother (learning like me) said i should prob drop by make quick convo and set a heavy time constraint so that i can finish off with something like...

ME: "Hey id really like to countinue this convo." (write my number on the top of a slip of papre, teat a lil so that theres a top and bottom and hand her the paper).

or something like you said.

In anycase i like the idea of using some excuse to have to be there for a short time (like picking something i need up or dropping somehting off).

BTW, she is no different then any other chick...notice i dont even assign numbers to chicks in my posts...to me they are all 1's (1 being the lowest outta ten). The only reason im getting like this is i hate feeling like i didnt finish something i should have. Even a number close and nothing else would make me satisfied, but more would be an added bonus.

thanks guys

EDIT: While i posted this a buddy called, party on saturday...lol i love how the world works

Never say "Id really like to" anything.... ever.....

Say 'we should'

Why do you think that is the case?

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Your right, displaying intrest....typed it at work in a rush. The inner AFC im trying to kill got out.

I think i got a pretty solid plan for how im gonna work this, its been a week since i was there...one more week is good timing or to early/late?

at work or id elaborate.

I agree that if you CAN number close on this one you should. Not only will it help to build your confidence for the future, but there may always be the chance that this girl wants to offer more than just her number. As long as you're not hung up on the girl, which you don't sound like you are.

First off i wana say you guys are awsome, regardless of what happens i want to thak you all for being so receptive and responsive.

This is the plan, as far as i can tell...

Ima take a cab over there next week prob like wensday. Im gonna go there at try to arrive about 5 mins before they goto lunch. I will ask my mother to bring my mail in, because i "need to have x peice of mail".

Once i get there i will immediatly start the set (its about 99.9% certain i cannot seperate my target at her job). I will "open" it with a routine i came up with that correlates to a magic trick i do.

ME: "Hey, you guys remember when you first started learning how to tie your shoes. Maybe you can just think of all the different ways there must be.

Set: "blah blah."

ME: "Well i got a way to tie my shoes that ill bet you have never seen, as a matter of fact ima have (target) try with me." (put her on the spot, compliance test, and do a lil kino when refering to her)

ME: "Ok, untie your shoelace on either foot...good."

ME: "Now im gonna support you and your gonna support me while we do this. Put your arm on my should so you dont fall over and lift your leg with the untied shoelace a little, like this..."
(standing shoulder to shoulder we will use each other to support ourselves while lifting one foot about 3-6 inches off the floor)

ME: "Ok, now follow me...left,right, up, down, shake it around, and then...."
(i slowly at first and gradually getting faster kick my foot around. this lasts about 5seconds until i stop moving my foot and my shoelace is tied)

ME: "Hey! you didnt follow the directions right, now you gotta tie your shoe like everyone else..."
(Neg for good measure , might give yet another chance to kino)



Then i would follow this with the 4 questions routine, which if you dont know is basically a cold reading. This will allow me to make it seem like we have a connection. I will also start with the "close your eyes and clear your head' neg.

Then i will use the "You make me sad" routine, but i will cut off at we could never go out.

I will then say.

"We should countinue this convo but i really have to go. (take out a peice of paper, small with a top and bottom half). In a creative way, leave me some way to contact you so we can countinue were we left off..."

and basically form there if she doesnt get it or write her number down ill write the area code then just look at her like im disapointed (but with a slight grin)...from there if she doesnt finish it i will drop it and leave...if she writes her number ill write mine, tear it in half, and go.


Basically my goal will be to DHV were i left off while similtaneously raise kino and one or 2 playful negs to keep her ego in check. I will run a routine to develop a connection and start a second to develop anticipation to set me up for a number close. I see this taking me about 20mins to do, and hope that the cab will wait for me .


Let me know what you guys think. I tried not to run on too much but still convey all the ideas completely. Thanks again for everyones help.

Sounds like an idea, but not only do I not think the cab will wait for you, but if it's on her lunch break, she might not like the idea of taking up that much time either. I'm just wondering if you should cut out some of that stuff and basically make your point and impression with much more impact in a shorter space of time.

Figured i would either toss the cabby a few extra bucks or setup a seperate cab comapny to pick me up about 20mins after i arrive.

Yea i prob could cut the time down a little and that would help with the cab issue.

Any ideas what i should cut out?

Also an update, i upgraded my phone because mine is on its last leg(and i was eligable for an upgrade) and it got shipped to my billing address, which happens to be my rents house, so i plan on asking my mother to bring it to work for me to pickup.

Thanks again guys ttyl

PS: I plan on doin alot of sarging this weekend just in case its oneitis and even if its not it will possibly help me boost up some confidence and practice in the areas i need help.

Instead of doing a bunch of routines, do one to get going and then do a DHV story.

20 min. That is to long. Find something to close in 5. This person is not a new set. You are already in a2-3 and need to start working towards C1.

Routine, cocky-funny, No negs, I do not want to get you in trouble, we should continue this conversation somewhere else. I'm going to be XXX, your welcome to tag along........


If she is busy, get her phone number and tell her that she can catch up with you later. Call her phone so she has your number.

Go back to the cab. Around here, cabs will wait forever (the meter is running)

#close......

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Recommended reading list.

Double Your Dating by DD
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