I actually read the whole post, but was confused by it. I thought you were saying that if she asked a guy to buy her a drink, that it was a good tool for weeding out the low value guys from the high value ones. My bad!

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I wouldn't quite suggest this one either. Some guys may be flattered to have a woman approach them and say that they are cute, but you just took away the entire challenge for him. Even if you go into push/pull he already knows that you fancy him and he can do whatever. Guys like an ATTAINABLE challenge with women...be that challenge.

I think it's pretty easy for girls in a way because guys have no 'bitch shield'. You just need to be brave and say 'u having a nice night?' to a guy while ur at the bar, and he'll most probably want to have a conversation with u. If ur reasonably pretty that's it, he'll be thinking 'I've got to get with this girl' the whole time... basically if a random guy's talking to u for any length of time at a bar he most probably likes u. Then just make it easy for him to make a move, suggest going outside for some air together or just go for it and kiss him, the chance u'll get rejected is pretty much zero.

I agree with you but 1.) most women don't know this, and 2.) if women do know this then they aren't confident enough in their looks. If they are mediocre they might not think they are going to attract the guy and won't approach him.

It is also intimidating for women to walk up to a set of guys. It is much easier to approach a guy by himself. We women have the same issues and fears that you guys do. While you don't have the legendary "bitch shield" guys are known to weigh looks a lot more heavily. Women are already insecure enough about their looks thanks to Cosmo and society let alone to have to deal with an actual man's judgment of their looks.

So pretty much I don't need any real openers or anything like that?
I'm a very terribly girly drinker, I can't stand the taste of alcohol, would it maybe be a good way to open if I ask a guy what kind of drink I should buy? That way I'm not asking him to buy me a drink, and he has a reason to talk to me.

Just to get back to you on that point, it's intimidating for a guy to walk up to a group of girls! For both sexes u need to improve ur confidence to improve ur game. Usually guys aren't in a big group at the bar, so that would be a less intimidating place to approach, its also way less obvious.

But it is definately true that guys judge on looks, in fact, in a bar, almost exclusively. So whilst (or so it is said) pretty much any guy can learn how to pull beatiful women, it doesn't work the other way round. That's just nature. I think girls of about 6+ (6 if dressed well) can pull pretty much any guy(PUA and celebrities etc. omitted), so be honest with yourself and rate yourself. Guys will almost always be interested as long as u show interest in them. If 6+ you have nothing to lose! 5 and if you're confident you can pull a lot of guys. If 4 or below, being frank, you will have problems. You can't build attraction like with the PUA tactics for guys, I figure the best thing to do would be to try and develop a very outgoing and fun personality, and work getting to know a guy quite well ,then make a move. The 'friend zone' is VERY different for guys, so even if u think ur probably just friends, making a move won't ruin things if ur not too clingy. Also once ur with a guy, if you've started to do stuff sexually he can start feeling attracted to u even if he wasn't before and just went along with it, because us guys can't help ourselves sometimes.

To answer Cinnamon Spice, u really don't need openers like guys do. Just say ANYTHING. Obviously u need confidence, but it really doesn't matter what u say (unless ur giving him the impression that ur trying to get a drink out of him) So asking 'what should I drink?' would work well. As would 'u having a nice night?' and even 'hi, I'm ..., hows it going?' Guys take it as a big compliment to be approached, because happens so rarely. And a guy will never blow u off unless he's a complete dick, and he'd really have to be. Guys worry about rejection, but girls really shouldn't, as they won't have to experience it. Once you've opened, just try to continue the conversation. Honestly though if you're 6+ you could go to most guys, put ur arm round thier waist and say 'lets sit down over there' and they would absolutely love it! So go out and be confident!
Chris