I'm fairly new, but I have little problem opening in bars, clubs or out in the streets in between. However I still have some real AFC moments in the day. I think I can work on these except for the situation of being at work.
My office has a few HB7-9s, some with BFs, some single. There's a HB7.5 on the ground floor who sits only next to one guy and I never used to speak to her until early on in my PUA days (still under a month ago) when I realised I'd no reason for AA. So I opened with some stuff about work before talking about my impending holiday in the far-east (possible DHV?) when she turned her chair around, moved closer and opened her body towards me with one hand in her hair. Inside I was like if that wasn't an IOI... I wrapped up the convo and as I was leaving she was still trying to talk to me.

I've been down to speak to her once since, had a similar convo plus a neg, and had pretty much the same reaction.

Three issues, with this and general office PU:
1) If this was a bar, you'd try kino or at least #-close. In the cold light of day, I'm worried about the audience (despite it being small, although rumours could go round) knowing we're attracted .
2) I don't know if she actually is single, and still have never really known a good way of finding out
3) If things don't work out, we'll see each other quite a lot compared to chicks who work elsewhere.

Any advice or opinions?

Three issues, with this and general office PU:
1) If this was a bar, you'd try kino or at least #-close. In the cold light of day, I'm worried about the audience (despite it being small, although rumours could go round) knowing we're attracted .
2) I don't know if she actually is single, and still have never really known a good way of finding out
3) If things don't work out, we'll see each other quite a lot compared to chicks who work elsewhere.

Any advice or opinions?


sounds to me your

1) afraid of being shot down in public (place of work)

2) afraid of getting shot down cause she may have a boyfriend

3) afraid of ocward situation if things dont work out

let me talk about #3 first

3# yeah your right why the hell would anyone ever approach anyone, i mean come on if they shoot you down they might hurt your ego and your inner child may feel ocward, atleast if you dont approach you can always sit in your cubicle and wonder what if while some other guy takes your girl

#2 yeah she could have a boyfriend so you better not approach and just live with the agongy of thinking what if while once again some other co-worker takes YOUR girl

#1 yep all eyes are on you when you talk to her and if she shoots you down cause you asked her to hang out one night after work everyone is gonna laugh and the boss is gonna throw a humiliation party....


solution is WHAT THE HELL...

you need to get over the what if scenarios going through your head

#1 think on your feet (you ask her to hang out, and she says i have a boyfriend) say slow down im only talking as friends i aint one to cheat

#2 who cares what the other employees think, is it not common to wanna date other individuals cause to me it is....what you think is gonna happen your gonna ask her to hang out and soem other employee is gonna call you gay for asking a girl out????........man up....

#3 if she shoots you down for you wanting to hang out, who says its gonna be ocward.....YOU DID.....your the one who will make it ocward once again ITS COMPLETELY UNCOMMON TO ASK A WOMAN TO HANG OUT....pleassse....

.ask her to hang out and if she says she has a boyfriend and you say well i wasnt implying a date just gonna go to the local bar after work and figured youd like to tag along....and she still says no....

then your the one who makes it ocward, it you shrug it off and go o well it happens and just go about living your life and not let it bother you then thigns should be alright

i understand this is easier said then done but you gotta get ahold of that inner pussy and beat the shit out of him.....

stop the what if's this and what if's that...

your psyching yourself out, making excuses as if your trying not to ask her to hang out cause your afraid of getting shot down..

so whatever way you can find to ask her to hang out some day go ahead and do it and dont worry about everyone else....

there not the one who has to go home at night hating themselves for not asking this girl out......


questoins???

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Well, as brutal as that was... I guess it's true.

However, the other day I thought I'd pop in and say hello. Somehow we ended up alone. A great opportunity.... but...
I bottled it and instead waffled on about nothing in particular. FUCKING IDIOT.
Like Seinfeld once said to George, when it comes to idiots I am the king of all idiots.
And to cap it all that day, I found out that my bank with all my savings went under.
I guess I wouldn't have been able to afford to take her out anyway!

Anyway, there other HBs including an HB8 who works on my floor. We were on a training course and I sat next to her for lunch with two of her other female friends. I was a bit shy at first but then started chatting more, with a cute discussion about favourite crisp flavours, and even better, some other HBs came by and were saying hello and chatting to me (I know them a little bit). So that's got to be good social proof. If I get this one alone I will not screw it up.

didnt mean for it to sound harsh i was trying to be sarcastic but yeah its kind of hard by just typing im sure you know...

anyways to sum it up, dont worry about anyone else and what if she shoots me down and what if my employees see me hitting on a co-worker......i highly doubt they will mind and if they do they must be gay and jealous your hittin on a girl and not them lol...pretty sick im sure that'd be but girls and guys its a normal thing and your doin nothin wrong plus you talking ot her if she ends up rejecting you you'll leran soon enough it happens and soon after youll come to realize u just gotta say o well and move on
but that right there you bottled it in is what i am talking about scared to f up and just nervous all togther.....i think you really should work on that AA and conversatoin skills before really really reallly attemtping anything concrete with someone you want to hook up with cause you might end up screwing yourself....id try pick-up on girls who relaly dont mean anything to you for practice to get you use to the idea..

and while your at it it wouldnt hurt to pick up a book on converation skills

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