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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:34 am 
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I need help/adive. This is pretty long so I would appreciate your patience and feedback. Thanks, So here is the deal...

There is this girl I met through a friend, we have seen and met each other a few times before but nothing more than really "Hi" or "Whats up". Well towards the end of June of this year, I left her my number on myspace and told her to call and let me know if anything was going on that weekend(i am establishing how we got each others number). She had recently told my friend that he and I should come party with them but we didnt make it out thatnight. My friends phone was broken so I left her my number through myspace. Well she texted me some joke later that day. So from that point on we texted just as friends on a daily basis and started to ask each other things and eventually started to flirt with each other. Towards the middle of July we started talking on the phone along with texting.

Well i seen her at work one day, i would say this is towards the end of July and she was about to get off. She said she was hungry and felt like eating wings, so I was like well lets go eat wings. So we went hang out and eat wings. So we continue to talk and text and maybe like a week later I aked her on an "official" date. She happily accepted. We went to dinner and a movie during the middle of the week. Then a fews days later she asked me to go to a Mall about an hour away with her, so I went. We had fun doing some shopping etc. Matter of days later we had ice cream and went hang out at the locak park( we hold hands and she plays in my etc...starts here). Once again we enjoyed ourselves and had phone conversations about how comftorable I make her. The flirting with text messages continue. Matter of days later she asks me to come over one night to watch a movie(now mind you, she is in college and still lives at home with parents). Well we have lunch that day amd later that night I go watch the movie. She lays by me on the sofa during the whole movie. We cuddle with eachother and SHE makes the move and kisses me first( i had planned to close with a kiss that night). Matter of days pass and she is getting ready to go on a vacation before school starts up, so i tell her when needa do something. We again go to dinner and a movie. We have good vibes yet again. She loves the holding hands things, we kiss multiuple times.

Now all of these dates/hang out sessions happen in a matter of a couple weeks I would say. Well a couple days after our last date, she goes on her vacation. Now I am a complete sweetheart and very chamring fellow. I would compliment her with a bunch of adjectives etc.., just messing withe her and saying nice things! That day I was complimenting her and she told me that....Everything was happening really fast and she was not used of moving that quickly. Which I completely agreed with once I stepped back and looked at the situation when she pointed it out. Neither of us has been in a serious realationship and we are both over 21 years old. She said that if we continued to move at the pace we were at, we would end up in a relationship, which was true. So we agreed to slow down. Sh said that she still wanted to hang out and stuff Well we are still texting and it was cool. About week and a half after she got back I asked her to do something but she was busy so we didnt. She said maybe tommorow, so I called the next day and she said she didnt have any money so couldnt(which I could tell something was up then). The convo got a lil awkard so she was like ill call you back later. Later she texts me and we have convo.

She basically said that she didnt expect to do anything so quickly. So we start talking and having a conversation and I ask has her initial impression or something changed about me since when we first started talking. And she tells me that, she wasnt use of guys being extra charming so she thinks she backed out. She said being extra charming can have its advantages and disadvantages and that when i guy is too nice to a girl it makes him seem more like a friend and that is what we seem to be. She said she thinks we are better off as friends. She said she was just "dating" and having fun. She said no relationship she wasnt ready to settle down(well i didnt necessairly want one either and she knows and adknowledged that). She just wants to date and have fun. I asked her if she saw us as mroe than friends in the future and she said she doesnt know what the future holds.

That happened about a month ago. I am not pissed or mad at her because she was honest with me. So i was going to be honest also and i told her that very rarely do I met girls I am "genuine interested" in and I try to take advantage of situations like that. Now guys, I dunno how I got put into the friends zone really...she enjoyed everything as much as me. She admitted to having good vibes and fun with me. Also, I wasnt necessairly wating a realationship, but I damn sure would love to see what woulda happen. I still woulda liked to hang out and slow down and use the whatever happend happend approach.

After that convo, I texted her a few days later and told her that I didnt want her I was holding anything against her. She responded and said she didnt think that in anyway. So it has been like a month and we are still cool. I may text her everyonce in a while and see how school is etccc...and she will text asking how is work or whatever. The convos are not like they used to be obviously, no flirting or anything. Well i texted her this past thursaday to say whats up and that was the last time I talked to her. I am sure she still digs me though.

May I add I also became friends with one of her best friends that "loves me". I still talk and joke around with her but neither one of us has brought up what has happen. She maynot even know.

So yes I was starting to dig this girl. Do i stop initiating contact with her, and just let her text me. I want her to start to like me again and remove me from that friends zone(as she calls it). I just don't wanna give up on her that eaily.....she was sooo much more than intriguing than 95 percent of girls i meet. What do I do?????


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Bro, you are a complete definition of Average Frustrated Chump. Take this as positive criticism, but like most guys you have a lack of understanding of social dynamics. In this game, nice guys do finish last. You can still be a good guy and be genuinely nice, but if all you do is complement and be courteous, your love life is going to suck. Take this experience with this girl as a landmark point in your life, and take it upon yourself now to understand what triggers to fire when talking to women and how to act to better diversify your portfolio of them.

Once you have been given the 'lets just be friends' speech, it's pretty much time to pack your bags and move on. You need to try easier man. If you are scared that you're going to lose someone, you will. There is a load of material you can buy or download that will open your eyes to all the reasons you've failed in the past. By learning this stuff you will become much more confident and competent around women, and also your conversational skills with everyone will increase. If you truly and deeply want her back, then do whatever you can to increase your value to her. Start dating other girls, groom yourself better, tell her stories conveying that you are the leader of men, STOP complimenting her, START teasing her, and be the first to break off any conversation. Do not ask her out on dates, but set up low commitment hangouts like going to get some sushi or having her help you shop for shoes.

Act as if you are the prize and she is a guest in your world. If you have a stronger frame (sense of reality) and are the dominant one, then she will want to tag along for the ride. Reward her for good behavior and punish her for bad. There is so much to this art form that can not be said in one post, but I strongly encourage you to learn it. Send me a PM if you want a short list of really good sources that will enable you to improve your way of life forever.


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fuck, im not going to read all that


summarize it.
(3 paragraphs double spaced)

or ask me any questions you have and I will help.


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