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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:14 pm 
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Hey guys,

Im pretty new to this seduction thing, only really got into it after reading Neil Strauss' "The Game". My game, I have to admit, could do with some improvement.

Im pretty young, and usually go out with the same bunch of three guys to different places. The only thing is; I know quite a bit of the idea of the game in my head, the IOIs, the negs, false time restraint and so on, but never seem to be able to practice it enough!!

Let me give you an example of last night: I was in a club, and saw a girl who I knew from school, about a year older than me but pretty much a HB11. Seriously. But anyway, she started talking to me, and I said to her 'my girlfriend thinks you're really hot', and immediately this sparked a reaction because it wasn't creepy as if I was the one who said it, but there was plenty of kino and followed by a (terrible) neg that I delivered that seemed to work. Anyway, somewhere a little into the conversation, I completely lost it. I couldn't think of anything. The damn music was being played in speakers really near us, and so she could barely hear what I was saying half the time. Apparently she had lost her friends, and was stuck holding their drinks in this club. But yeah, maybe this is just me but I reckon I had all the IOI's, but I just couldn't follow it up!! I ended up asking her stupid boring questions like "so what are you up to now, you finished uni?" - i.e. the kind of crap that people say when they cant think of anything else to say. Its pathetic.

Eventually this girl left to find her friends and I went off to find mine, feeling FRUSTRATED as hell that I had just let the hottest girl slip away when I might have been able to get somewhere.

I have to admit, out of this entire community, Im probably the worst PUA ever. Not because my routines are bad or whatever, but because I can barely get over this APPROACH ANXIETY. I go out, sure I have minor flaws but who doesnt? I dress well, clean up good, but still I just cant find it within myself to just walk up to a random girl(s) and ask them some crazy opener that PUA's advise to use like "who do you think lie more, men or women?"

Please guys. I know this sounds pathetic, but I need some help and Im going crazy lol. I just dont know what to do. Even after I open a girl and neg her (once every blue moon), Ive got nothing to follow up! Im a fake PUA! Maybe its partly because Im worried about what my friends might think if I fail, Im not sure.

Any advice at all would be highly appreciated! :)


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:58 pm 
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Please guys. I know this sounds pathetic, but I need some help and Im going crazy lol. I just dont know what to do. Even after I open a girl and neg her (once every blue moon), Ive got nothing to follow up! Im a fake PUA! Maybe its partly because Im worried about what my friends might think if I fail, Im not sure.
First off, I want you to stop beating up on yourself & try to relax. Try and understand that you going out and even approaching once in a while is a whole lot better than the average guy who just hopes when approach him in his home while he's playing some video game.

Your problem isn't know what to do, your problem is mostly that you need a routine stack to follow & A SWIFT KICK IN THE ASS. You need some story telling skills as well. You go through some things with negging and stuff in A2 and you are about done. You neeed to get yourself a routine stack with DHV material that are just stories from your life. When you have these stories you'll have stuff to talk about.

Most of this in in YOUR HEAD. If you don't want to use an opinion opener then use something situational. This is more spontaneous but comes across as natural which it is. The bottom line is it really doesn't matter what you open with. It matters how you say it more than what you say. As a prime example a good friend of mine of the forum would walk up to girls and say, "Frozen Turkey!" to open them. We did this testing this theory. It actually worked when I didn't think it would.

Who cares what your friends think? You are doing this to improve yourself. You aren't doing this for your friends, your family, or anyone else. YOU ARE DOING THIS FOR YOU! Don't worry about what others think and if they think you are doing well enough. JUDGE YOURSELF BY YOUR OWN STANDARDS.

If you need more help let me know or post it here.

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