Well, I had been reading a lot about this here in this forum and in a blog Im used to visit, so I decided to put my knowledge about it cause, well, I was the good guy too once. Since I am still a newbie, i cant post this anywhere but here, and this should be in the inner game section, but well, newbies gotta do what newbies gotta do. Well, here it goes.

The thing about good guys is just that, they are just too good people, goodnes in extreme, trying to rescue women and everybody, trying to make life easier for others and to please everyone else. Why write about this? Well, because when this good guy who has a girl suddenly looses her over this other competitor who was a shitty person, a dishonest, rude, less caring man, well, thats about the worst thing that could happen to a good guy.
And it generally happens.
Good guys are the most uncomprehended persons in the world, more so in the world of seduction. Not even them know why they get crap for doing whats right, they cant tell why woemn dont award the one who is good to them, the one who plays by the rules, with no double intentions, the one who is capable of waiting and doing things no one else would only for that woman they are into. And it isnt just for women, good guys, or what i call "Redeemers" (that classmate everyone had in highschool who was practicly a monk) tend to try to save everything and everything from what they consider evil or bad. And when they are not needed, or rejected, it makes them feel like crap. Good guys are generally used a lot, they take lots of crap from others. Specifically, in the world of seduction, good guys almost always end up in the LBJF zone. Why not? They are perfect for the job. And a girl would never fuck with his friend.
What they have, that unbuyable friendship, is too much to be ruined with intimacy, or sex. She will tell you all the stories about her lovers. She even will come to you when guys treat her like crap, and will cry in you shoulder, longing for the man who would just treat her nice. But thats what she SAYS she wants. Not what she really wants.
Some of this ever happened to you? Well i have a few solutions to overcoming the good guy thing, WITHOUT BECOMING A BAD PERSON OR AN ASSHOLE.
1- Be pragmatic:
Dont try to bust your ass to get what you want. Do the things on an easier road, the road that brings you the less complications. If you realize that you atract emotionally disturbed women who would fuck up your life, move aside as soon as you see them, and think you need a little hedonism for yourself.
2- Dont let people get away with shit and offend you:
Pretty much it, if there is people abusing your kindness, just let them know you wont be letting them anymore. Dont fear what others may think. In fact, they will think that you finally got some balls.
3- Resist that obssesive tendency over doing favors:
Im not saying you have to be this selfish- never helping guy, but you cant always be sloving everybodys problem. First its you, then the others.
If you dont care of yourself, who will?. "Quid pro quo, Clarice" as Hannibal Lecter said. Dont help people who wont be willing to help you someday. Dont be that inconditional.
4- Be direct:
You like something? Say it. You dont like somethin? Point it out.
5- Think you have nothing to loose:
Good guys act like they were always up to loose a valuable girl, and thats why they are so trascendental, thats why they keep they mouth shut when they have a negative feeling. Act risky, start feeling some adrenaline. Nobody is indispensable, remember it.
6- Everybody lies:
Like House says. Its true. Show me someone who doesnt tell lies, and I'll take my own life. Suspect of everything some one says if you have fundaments about it. Dont obssesively look for perfection, it doesnt exist, or at least no one found it yet.
7- Receive rather than give:
Rest a little, giving sucks energy dry. Start asking, let the other persons be the ones to do favors to you.
8- Learn to say NO:
Good guys sayyes to everything. Stop. Start feeling the power of making you own decisions, without explaining anything to anybody.
9- Work on humor and irony:
Dont take people seriously, not even yourself, start joking a little from seriousness. Live life with a smile on your face.
10- Stop being so sensitive with people:
Think like doctors (Like I will have to one day) who dont suffer for each patient who arrives the hospital and dies, or for a patient who refuses SPAM. They dont suffer because they are emotionless monsters, its because if they dont, they wouldnt be good at their jobs, and the reality of suffering for each dead patient would ultimatelly take them down. Life is one, and one only. Enjoy it. It is good to uderstand pain and human problems, but not to the point of taking care of them, make them yours, and become responsible for them.

Well i guess that was it. I feel like I didnt post all I wanted, and I had a few errors of writing, but whatever, this post is too long, so fuck it.
I hope it helps.

Great list dude!

I actually managed to overcome this problem when I got into the world of Pick Up. Nowadays I make more cocky comments, fire more negs and I'm not SO FUCKING POLITE TO GIRLS. The last one was my biggest problem. I had no problem with opening and gaining comfort, but the attraction was nowhere to be found. I became their sensitive, polite and funny friend, not exactly what I wanted. But those days are fucking over! =)

I agree with it all. Ofc dont over do any of the points, but you mentioned that

Great work mate!

Thanks. I posted this mainly because if a good guy wants to become a PUA, then he needs to overcome his biggest foe, himself.
And damn thats hard. I also have a few ideas about the friends zone with girls, but no conclusive yet. Ill post them some other day

I think the problem is that 'nice guys' always fail to communicate sexual interest. The bad guys are not afraid to do so. They are really the only available mates for girls.

"Why do good girls, like bad guys?" - DMX

because, Good Guys are never available in the girls eyes.