Let her know that your busy on Saturday with your car show, You should tell her to bring her friend (most likely the other guy she is talking to) and you should either invite a male friend that can disarm him so you can get this girl alone or keep the guy occupied while you work your car knowledge on her.

Or bring one of your single girl friends that can flirt with this guy. that will cause some tension between Him and your Target girl, causing her to flirt more with you and giving you a chance to demonstrating values that yoy have over the other guy...

If those don't work just ice her for a couple of days

IF that is the case then that shows you what type of person she is and will be in the future.

Now it is time to make the hard decison...would you rather "lose" or chase. Which is more important to you? (rhetorical question)....just because you chase doesn't make you any less of a man or PUA. Yeah I know the guidlines, but if she is someone you truly want to hang out with, you might have to step outside those guidlines this one time. Maybe she is put off bc of lack of IOI's?? (just a thought)

I guess I'll try something new and chase. I really wanna see if I can land this chick, I think its because she is playing hard to get . Just something about the challenge intrigues me.

And the car show was last Sunday (rained anyways), this weekend is our highlighter party. The last time I talked with her she said she wanted to hang out Thursday night (tonight). That is when I asked if she wanted to go downtown, and she replied, "maybe unless we can find something else to do ". I'm not sure if I should see if she wants to hang out again, or just wait until the party... I feel like a retard asking if she wants to hang out so often and just getting denied every time.

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That is good that you are intrigued though....this should be FUN not a burden
I think her message is a great sign and from my perspective an IOI. If you haven't responded back yet try something like "oh yeah, well what did you have in mind ." I know when I send that text to a guy, I have more on my mind than just hanging out ya know.
I know what you mean...it can be rough. Stay strong.[/quote]

Eh, I'm not sure if I still feel like chasing. I'm going to use 1 and 2 to name two different girls. Girl 1 is the one I was after with this post, girl 2 is her best friend and all that. Girl 2 came down tonight for a bonfire, girl 1 was nowhere in sight. Since my roommate was out on vaca with his (ex)girlfriend, she started talking with me more. Turns out girl 1 is stuck up and full of herself. Now this could be just girl 2 talking out of jealousy, who knows. I got girl 2's number and hung out with her all night in the kitchen just chillen and then played some card games when everyone else came in from the fire. She asked if she could bring girl 1 down for our party tomorrow night, she was afraid it would be akward. I told her it would be fine, nothing was going on between us anyways. She said it sucked because she thought I was a much better guy for girl 1 than this other kid, she thinks he's a douche bag haha. I told her don't worry about it. They are both coming down tomorrow night, and girl 2 wants to be my beer pong partner for the night. I told her I would be, so I think I'm going to try to make girl 1 jealous using her best friend. Girl 2 isn't as hot as girl 1, but for now seems like she is a lot better in the personality factor. We will see what happens tomorrow night...

Oh, and thanks for all the insight Bonita21 and others (See Kay, etc...). You guys have helped me realize the situation from an outside POV, which is awesome.

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In this case, I think you aren't doing anything wrong. Girl 1 might get mad and jealous that you are talking to her friend, but you have two legitimate reasons to ignore girl 1: she always flaked out on you and also bc she is interested in another guy.

Word of caution though. If you are interested in girl 2, that is totally fine...but if it is just for jealousy, it is disrespectful to play games with her mind/heart. And if it does make girl 1 jealous and come running back to you, would you ignore girl 2 and focus on 1 again? (rhetorical) Just something to think about. Be gentle, you wouldn't want to ruin their friendship either---it could happen, and it has happened to me!

I know what you mean, and I was thinking about that this morning. I'm not sure if I'm looking for a relationship with anyone right now, I just want some girls to hang out with, bring to parties, maybe go see a movie or out to dinner with when my roommates and their girlfriends go. I'm thinking girl 2 wants something more. Last night she changed my Facebook status to "chilling with the coolest girl alive " and then after writing on my wall this morning she changed her status to ":) ". I mean, she is a cool girl and all, I just don't know if I want to be exclusive to anyone right now. Plus, when girl 1 starts working at A&F, I know she will tell girl 2 all about how I flirt with some of the other girls that work there...

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Yeah so I'm almost positive girl 2 wants more... They both came over for the highlighter party last night (great idea BTW - I had highlighter all over my body...). As promised, I was beer pong partners with girl 2. Girl 1 didn't like that idea, since we had been awesome partners a few weekends before. I just shrugged my shoulders and continued playing. While highlighting, they both went nuts on me. I had highlighter all over my body, not even sure if I got it all this morning in the shower... My shirt looks fruity with hearts drawn all over it, but I'll never wear it again haha. The night went on and girl 1 hadn't played beer pong yet. So I told her to be partners with my friend that was in town. She said she still wanted to be my partner, gave me some puppy dog eyes which didn't work. I was about to tell her if she wasn't so flakey she may have had the chance to be my partner, but never did. I'm pretty sure she was getting kinda pissed that I wasn't hanging out with her. She kept staring at me across the table, she didn't look too happy. After beer pong died down, girl 2 and I went upstairs and found our way into my room. We were just chillen, flirting, cuddling, etc... And girl 1 calls me. She tells me she is leaving and that she will be back for girl 2. I handed the phone over to girl 2 and she finally tells girl 2 she is outside waiting. So I go to walk girl 2 out and she starts making out with me in the hallway. It was a drunken kiss for sure, I made fun of her about it when she called me after she got home. So I walk her out and make sure girl 1 is good to drive. She gets out of the car to give me a hug and tells me she will text me when she gets home. So I let them ride off into the sunset...

Now I still don't know what I want. My roommate's girl talked to girl 2 last night and told her we should go on a double date. So tonight I'm supposed to hang out with her when she gets outta work at 10:30... I don't want to lead girl 2 on since I'm still on the fence about going exclusive. How should I go about this? She changed her Facebook status to "love all, trust few. Do wrong to noone." She has trust issues since her ex cheated on her with someone who was here last night. She even made me promise that I wouldn't do anything with the girl, who I don't even talk to. I just hate to be a dick, which I feel I will be if I tell her I'm not looking for a relationship. Arrrrggghhhh...

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Good job bro.

Make your intentions clear with girl2. The problem with doing that is that she is going to want you more. We all want what we cant have, right? Girl1 does not want you, she wants your attention. Girl2 saw the kind of guy you are, and wants your attention plus your affection. Be honest, do not fear holding back your feelings. They matter. Just do not lead Girl2 on when she has no shot.

Good luck bro.

See Kay.

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