Wasn't sure in which forum to post it, so it ended here. Warning - it's gonna be long. To the point... I used to be in a long term relationship (5 years) with a woman (HB 10), kindda the independent intellectual type, always obsessing about Napoleon's wife Josephine. It ended one and a half year ago. The whole story goes: Shagged her a couple of times before we got into the relationship. I was a singer/guitarist in a popular local band and thus had tons of social proof. After I left the band, we got into a LTR. She seduced me and was totally into me. From what I know now, four years into the relationship I lowered my frame a bit. It all collapsed then. At the end she was playing the typical coquette push-pull bulls* on me. Crying and saying she loves me and wants my baby one day and saying she never wants to see me again the other. She always had a bit of that femme fatale scent about her - seduces a guy she finds hot, sleeps with him, moves to the next one never looking back. I was the only guy who managed to "tame" her - was faithful to me for 4 and a half years. Eventually left me heartbroken. I discovered the community, got my game together and have been keeping 2 - 4 simultaneous f-buddy relationships for about a year now. Am by no means a PUA, but not that much of an AFC either. Altogether I've slept with 17 women since we broke up. I thought of her only occasionally until she called me few days ago and wanted to meet. I thought yeah sure why not, I was kindda over her anyway. So we met. She came to the meeting totally weird - like someone told her she must go on a drink with me and pretend to be nice. Anyway I still found her very attractive so I decided to run the game on her. First I ran some cocky funny then patterns. Totally unresponsive. The only thing that got her interested was the "I figured something out, but don't think I should tell you" (ah female curiosity:)). She then proceeded to change the subject to f-buddies (!). I thought wow maybe it's on and we talked about it and other sex-related stuff for about an hour. Her body language was sending mixed signals - like totally leaning in with her arms crossed. She was also doing that subtile push-pull (inviting me to a drink then throwing out things like: I think you should put me on your blacklist/I don't think about you these days at all, etc.) When I had her leaning in with her arms resting on her knees, I threw in the natural woman pattern. She thought about what I said for few seconds then said: "wow that doesn't have a head nor tail. I mean it's not like black or white wrong but it's just mixing different things." ????? Kept my body language and tonality together (badboy style), did not convey neediness, etc.. We parted friendly, but it was all really odd. Now all those old feelings are back. Total mindf***. Any advice from you experienced guys on what to do since go f*** ten other women obviously didn't work for me in this case? Should I even be running the game on her - if so any suggestions? Is there something terribly wrong in her head or am I just playing out of my league?