I'm pretty much the only one out of all of my pals with any balls. I find I'm winging my pals but also having to carry them when I'm taking the lead in opening/conversation. They're learning but it's been driving me mad for a while now... I don't really have a decent reliable wing.
My pals think I'm some kinda legend cos I can approach women and get conversations flowing. It's really starting to piss me off now that none of my pals follow in my footsteps and try get passed the AFC stage. I find I'm doing all the work. Even when we're in conversation with a group of girls and Im with a few pals I'm having to over listen every conversation and back up my friends when they are starting to crash. I'll literally be having a chat with one girl, listening to another conversation, hear it starting to flop or go silent so I pick it up again for him, go back to my convo, then do the same for another pal and so. I'm having to juggle the whole scene single handed. I know I would have had a much easier time if I was alone with these 5 girls we were talking to, but at the same time I need wings to back me up. The only one thing my pals are helping with is the fact Im not alone in the field so giving me that confidence boost.
I'd just love to meet some guys Im comfortable with that I can rely on. One's that can hold their drink and not make a fool of themselves when a bit of alcohol has passed their lips.
How do you guys know your wings? Friends for a while? met online? Whats the deal?

My wing is actually my best mate, he read the game last summer and has been using it at uni, he introduced me to it. We are petty similar and not bad with women so it works a treat.

- SC

See this is the problem. I think like 1 of my pals has read the game, he's just read it and thats it, he's not acting on it, trying improve himself. One other pal has read a bit of it but is busy with Uni work so is using that as an excuse as to why he hasnt read it. Most of my pals dont know about being out in the field and the whole underworld of the game. I've been a PUA pretty much since I left school like 10 years ago. Always been gifted with being able to approach girls and not get nervous. I read the game about 6 months ago and just took on board the information I thought was relevant, I didnt have to start at the AFC stage and work my way up. I've always been confident and a lot of the topics covered in the book I had already kinda figured out for myself prior to readin it. Most of my pals are AFC's and dont even know what the fuck that means. Its frustrating that they dont have the drive to want to pursue women as much as I do.

Anyone got any ideas as to what I can do to get my pals into the scene more?

If I were you I would go out with your friends one night. Go up to really hot sets and get numbercloses and kisscloses or whatever you are after. If your friends tag along and fall and crash becuase they don't know what to say, let them. This night you will be really selfish, let them fall and crash a few times, but not so many times that they feel that you prio "hoes over bros" Af the end of the night, go home and tell them that if they get into this PUAing a little bit. Learned some routines and stuff and learned what to say and when they could become really good in a very short amount of time.

If they are still reluctant, tell them that you will learn them a few basic things and they should try it out the night after. If you do it right they will succed much better. They will maybe get blewn out of the set anyway, but they might stay there for 3x the normal time. And this time help them.

1. Learn them the Cube, the cube done on paris hilton is a good example. I have seen better versions of it, the best I have found is styles own cube. But it would take to long to explain it.

Here is a link on a basic cube that tells you a bit how to process her answers http://www.getinhermind.com/sure-fire-r ... t-the-cube
I don't like that cube very much but it gives a basic idea.

Short version : Imagine a white room (instead of desert) Add each thing in order
Cube =selfimage, small cube= lack of confidence, floating cube = creative person - cube on the ground = day to day person.

Ladder = Goals in life, workrelated - highvssmall ladder = how much ambition - hard to climb = hard to get to the goals - close to the cube or far from it = how close your work is to your personality

Flower = Loved once (family friends BF etc) = How many are they, are they alike each other, where are they?

Horse. Ideal man in her life, what is he doing, where in the room is he, desscribe his personality with 3 words.

Storm = problems in life, where is the storm, (If it is over the flowers you got relationship problems etc) is it cool or violent?

The most important with the cube is to always tell her that her way is healthy and cool. If she is insecure (= small cube) tell him to go like "I like that in people, never really liked those really cocky persons who think they own the world"



2. learn them the best friends test. http://www.theseductionbible.com/2007/0 ... ends-test/


Learn them a few of these routines, let them try it on eachother for practise or something, then next time that awkward silence steps in in their conversation. Just lean over to his target and go like "ohh ask him to do the cubetest on you, he is awesome at coldreading."

Tell him to go like.

Her: Ohh do this cubetest on me!
Him: I am no trained monkey you know, I usually take money for this
Her "looks sad" Please?
Him: Yeah, fine, not like we got anything better to do. "cocky funny smile"

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Normally a girl gets really hooked if you do the cube on her and do it the right way. This should really make you buddies less of AFCs and they will feel that they have so much more power by just knowing a few things to say. Also the cube is a perfect way to learn to know her and learn things about her life without asking, it is a test asking, not you.

For example, if she have her storm over her ladder. You will tell her that you can read that she has problems with work or school or something. After you have done the cube, ask her what "ladder related" things that are trubbeling her. and Poof, there you have a 5 min convo going.

/Chris T