| TO ALL YOU PICK UP 'EXPERTS' ('SEXPERTS' LOL)
If you're willing, I'd like some input on a unique situ I have created here.
To give you some background, I'm not a newb to the game; I'm 27, I live in one of the best single's cities in the USA, I'm tall (6'3"), fit (run daily and lift weights every other), and I'm not the nice guy not getting any nor the complete fucker fucking 18 yo chicks fresh outta high school, teaching them all the nastiest tricks in the books.
I'm a PUA, but I never even knew about this whole community, or the cult following, or the books and subculture, I just assumed that's how EVERYONE was. I just winged it early on, C & B style, and through so so much pain learned some skills that work and manage to get comfortable enough for PUA status without any material, just by trial and error, a step above RAFC.
I'm not satisfied with just being a PUA though; I truly am an artist; I'm creative and see every PU as a work of Art; never do canned routines; I'm a man of principle not script; I flinch every time I see a small mistake ruin a near perfect pick-up and recover in time to flip it over to some other HB8+. I'd rather not though; I'd rather just be that good. So please, if you are willing to help a brother out, I'm willing to learn and subtract another
I want to take the step up to PUM so I'm studying all the material i can find on PU and its the most fascinating subject I've ever studied, one I can really dive into..
So enough about me and my goals..
ONTO THE PU SITU................ :]
So, I put up a post a while back about PUing an HB10 model grade girl who I pretended to be interested in rooming with, went through this whole speil, when she told me she was seeing someone I closed the door, immediately got this response back saying how we should get some drinks some time, that she specifically had NO BOYFRIEND.
So, since she is half spanish, half italian, the two foreign languages I happen to know, i worked some charm with that, but she mysteriously stopped returning my text the next day. I took it as a shit test so I backed off, didn't hear from her, and forgot about it looking for new pursuits.
Note that the last message i sent to her, i said, 'we could get a drink or maybe just randomly run into each other at a coffee shop again' (purpose to disqualify myself). Low and behold, by fluke chance, we did run into each other at a coffee shop again. At first I just acted like I didn't see her. She didn't seem happy and was in her own world and didn't even notice me. Then I thought to see what she had to say.. so I approached her and invited her to eat lunch with me. She instantly went from closed and frowning a disatisfied expression to a huge beaming smile, completely open with her perfectly shaped tits planely displayed (under a tight sweater of course), and that puppy bowl eyes expression, totally. She said she lost her phone and sorry she didnt' return my text. I just kind of nodded. Then she came back that I should text her my number, that I she really wanted to have lunch with me and was on her way out to meet a client. She took two steps away, still facing me, just apologizing and saying that she really had to meet her client and I told her to just go.
I texted her my number at midnight that night and she told me to meet her at a bar. I couldn't make it up there in time though it was a distance from my place. I offered for her to come over to my place for a glass of wine (which she had previously hinted at being a good close 4 her). She... DECLINED, told ME to meet HER at another bar for happy hour on Friday to meet her and her friends. Then she got silent and disappeared for the night, I assumed to spite me in her HB10ness by fucking some dude there since she can have sex at any moment she wants. So, I tried to get her to meet up with me on Wed, then Thurs, and both times she put me off till HER time on Friday.
i know it was a bad sign. On Thurs I called her out and said, 'well, I think u pulled the bait and switch on me since u weren't smiling when i ran into u, u lit up when you saw me, you didn't come over on Tuesday, and now its all me.' To this she said she would come over but had to be up early for work (same line I used on her on Tuesday, she was matching me)
I didn't answer..
then fri afternoon, my phone was on low batt so I sent her a text saying, 'my phone's about to die, so meet me on the bridge(its a landmark) and I'll walk up there with you to chill with your friends for happy hour at 545pm. If i don't see you, i hope you have a good one.' Yeah, it was a strong close, but I wanted to show her I was the man, was willing to compromise, but still would only meet on my terms.
Unfortunately, my phone didn't die and she sent a text back that showed up as delivered (so she knew I got it) that she couldn't make it there in time, she had showings until 6 (she shows real estate) and to just meet her there at 700pm. I let that message sit for a couple hours then just sent her a simple, 'ok' cause I wanted to see her and it was our first supposed 'date,' so i thought..
IF YOU'RE ALL BORED BY NOW, HERE'S WHERE IT GETS GOOD >;]
So, I left work at my scraper (I'm a sales consultant), and on my way walking back to my condo, I saw this girl I had almost f closed the night I met her sitting at this bar. I paused for a second, made EC with the bartender, not the girl, then proceded on to my date. I had this not so great feeling the date was going to go wrong because I had agreed to her terms and the circumstances leading up to it. BUT.. WITH ALL THOSE INITIAL IOI'S, SHE ALSO LIT UP IN THE SAME WAY AND LICKED HER LIPS IN HER BEDROOM WHILE GIVING ME A GRIN WHEN 'SHOWING' ME HER PLACE, I THOUGH I HAD ENOUGH.
So I went home and cleaned up for her to come over later (the girl i'd been closing to get to come over every night that week, not the girl I had almost f-closed), and behold, the first girl sends me a text saying its going to be more like 730 for her. I send her one right back saying me 2, 2 match her back. Then I send her another one saying maybe closer to 745 or 8, no response. I get there at 800 and she is not there. I wait up till 815, still no sign, so i call her, she doesnt pick up, and i leave her a message in a bored yet chill tone saying, yo i don't see you anywhere here, i was having a good time where i was (referencing my near f close chick) and I guess I'm going back now, thanks for having me come down here for nothing.
She sends me a TEXT saying shes at the bar next door instead. I smile, and get the hot blondes number next to me (she actually turns out to be a total gold digger, possibly even a hooker, and I'm not exactly making bank yet). She asks why I'm not going over there, and i say, 'because she said she'd meet mehere. She should be here to get me if she wants me there.' She smiled and agreed that I was right. So I finished a drink and walked over there.
I don't see this girl at first so text her that. Then I spot her across the bar, scowling at her phone, seeing I just texted her. I was actually surpriseed. The last time I saw her I was getting puppy bowl eyes and her getting my permission to leave for a business meeting and she had gone from that to now scowling at ME!
So I walked up to her and just play it cool and give her a hug, and get the 'there there' double pat, always a bad sign, the embrace of her consoling me not passionately hugging me in any way. She's surrounded by 3 doods who are trying to mack her AFC style and she's giving one of them seductive glances. She excuses herself and runs off to get her friend to meet me and tells all the doods to eat the food that she bought probably initially for us (who knows). So I start eating the chips and the doods look at me like what am I doing and I tell them that i know her and she invited me out with her for the night and they back off immediately, AFC style.
The girl comes back with her friend who I meet (and apparently she also speaks spanish) q solid young HB8. I talk to her a little in Spanish and she knows it way better than me so I get a little thrown off. My supposed dates friend and my supposed HB10 date (who's now looking more on par with HB9s) start talking together and I catch her friend say I'm ugly. Well, I'm not like the typical beefcake looking, jagged jawed, box=headed stereotypical jock, but I'm 6'3" muscular 210lbs, fit, and better looking that probably 85% of doods. So on overhearing that I step in and exert my presense as a large alpha male with the two girls. my supposed date smiles at me and it feels like I'm starting to get her back. The girl gropes my chest and sees that I'm muscular and I say I'm working on a six pack but not quite there yet to show a little humility but also drive to be sexy for her. She takes it as cocky, and the two girls block me off and go flirt with the 3 AFCs.
So, I start making friends with other females now, since I displayed social value by meeting an HB there and also DHVing my supposed date by showing I'm not emotionally intimidated at all by her totally insulting me by having me out there for that. I start getting a few HB pawns going to show my status to this girl, then some dood shows up who's about half my size, obviously knows her, hugs her, and she gives him a real mother fucking hug would you beleive it. While she's hugging this dood, we make eye contact and she quickly looks away with an ugly ugly look (amazing how the hottest HBs can make the ugliest looks huh). Then she makes a space for me and I enter the circle again next to 'my girl'... da da da
It's me, this girl who melted to see me again turned awkwardness, her bitchy friend who kept giving me this wicked, naughty smile, and this dood. She immediately sees the question in my eyes and introduces me to her exboyfriend. He laughs and say, yeah, we go way back to high school, way back to elementary school even! This is her friend. Whatever, I'm still playing it cool. Her friend laughs and says, yeah, we share everything. Then I'm likinng it. I've had a couple threesomes and they're definitely a treat, especially with an Hb8,9's. Then this dood starts talking to me, he looks like bevis, and he starts saying he knows me from a sales call I did for my last company. I want to just ignore him, but hes already been identified as one of this girl's friends who I'm there to meet. So I mostly tried to get 'my girls' attention from her friend by EC with an occassional comment to this dood.
He keeps on pushing it and eventually i tell him I don't remember him, but it was probably with *company name* and touch is arm to show him some business respect if i met him and didn't remember him, but also to show dominance. The dood's eyes got huge, apparently he thought being in sales and making huge commissions is something to look down on, and the girl I'm with makes eye contact with him, walks completely past me, grabs this doods hand, and walks away with him...
So I'm standing there alone, her friend is off to the side with her back to me, just kind of bewildered. Then I just say, this girl invited me out to stand here by myself, like it was unheard of.. which by the way it is. Even AFCs do better. So incredibly insulting. Her friend senses alpha dude was done taking the bullshit and i could see her jump. Walked past her and nudged her out of my way, went to my pawns, got their numbers, started walking out, her friend in front of me with a mix between that twisted smile and suprise, and I walk right past this circle of couples including this girl who invited me out who is now holding her supposed ex-boyfriends hand with a glance and not a word or a pause as i go to end of the bar to close out. The bartenders are all busy and ignoring me, I stand there patiently for 20 seconds, then I aggressively say, 'could somebody please check me the fuck out of here. I'm sorry but I really want to get the fuck out of here and this guy immediately checks me out, and all the girls around me, with dudes are looking at me, the one right next to me who might have seen it happen smiles at me and hugs me in front of her guy.
I leave, send the HB9 a text saying I'm going back now, that I can't beleive I walked right past something for that.. Then later tell her to have a nice life...
She sends me a message the next day in the afternoon saying that shes sorry, she didnt' mean to be rude, it wasn't me at all, and she and her ex are still working out some things. Yeah, bullshit power
I just send her a message back,'no worries, i got mine. Take care.' and I did, I went back and fucked that girl. Shes an HB9 and it was good, nothing serious though, shes a total kinky slut
THE FINAL PART TO THIS EPIC SAGA
So, later that night, I'm feeling a little crazy because of the incredibly spontaneous and aggressive move I had just pulled the night before, I'm walking through my parking lot and this girl and I cross paths. I immediately ask her if shes got a hot date, and she says no. I ask why not (solid sequence girls love the implications of it), and she opens up to me and says shes moving. I say, well, I'll take her out, but I don't have any money, but we don't need money to have fun, just to buy things. She's loving it. She tells me she's the daughter of a mutli-millionaire business mogul + shes exactly my type for gf material. I'm loving it, but trying to conceal it, I get her number.
One thing confused me here... we crossed paths and I got her with that line, and she was open and i was kind of half open half closed to her. When I get her number, I open up to her and she crosses her arms closing off, yet giving me the number with a smile. I go back to halfway and she opens up again showing her awesome body. I give her a hug, its a warm embrace, we like each other, we're probably going to meet up later, and we start chatting finding a little about each other.. i come from a lower upper class background family of doctors, business owners, and business execs, and then she tells me her dad owned and sold probably the wealthiest gold coarse development in my area (checked it out, she's legit) and I said 'nice you're loaded' which she thought was funny and was authentic cause im broke right now, and then gave her a some minor little bs push statement.
We were good, so I went for the parting hug, but low and behold I was still feeling like the caveman from the night before (+ this new girl sort of look like the girl I fucked the night before) and I gave her three kissed, one on the cheek, one on the neck, and one on the shoulder. I have a little french blood and such affection often exists among men and women who are only platonic friends, but this girl was taken by surprise by the move, fidgeted a little on the cheek kiss, and closed off, said, 'wow, you're crazy!' not in a horrified way but not in a seductive way, in a completely surprised way. She then walked away saying good luck on your race (which took place two days later, insinuated a change of interest in meeting up later that night).
It sucked, I have strong feelings naturally which I defend from all girls, but its rare for a girl to click that well with me like that. That's the gf click, my ex was super wealthy too and similar in many aspects, and I immediately sent her a text saying, 'sorry I usually don't do that, but you just got the rebound from my shitty date last night' which was true, minus the fact that my shitty date totally inspired me to fuck another girl and I was still feeling that rush, and I think she felt how strong that sexual energy was and was intimidated not turned on at that moment.
So, I waited for some kind of response, the girl was moving and I probably just jolted her there so she was probably just ignoring it for then and finishing her business. I realized that the message was a supplication even if for a behavior that could have been perceived as crude, so I took the moment to take it back. 30 minutes later I sent her another message saying that 'actually, she probably shouldn't let that go (it's not like I groped her or anything and I'm really attracted to the girl, I felt like she was the same to me until that point), that I'm a total caveman (which is actually true, at least it was the night before),' and instead of pushing like with the previous it i just left it at that.
I wanted her to give me some kind of response that night because we were initially all about meeting up later, that's why she gave me her number. Never got a text back on either of those messages or a call, so I've just given her silence since. The day after I met this new girl and sent my last text messages, I sent that first girl a text message saying, 'before i delete your #, I'm just curious, u say it wasn't me but why did u set me up to lose then? Any girl who's ever liked me has set me up to win" Waited 30, no reply, and I froze her saying, "u don't have to answer that seniorita. *blah blah droped anchor to the night I charmed her with spanish phrases*. Adios.' To make the statement that it doesn't matter why, im a winner and i don't associate with people who set me up to lose, intentional or not, regardless. Then I deleted her number on my phone.
Just realized its still backed up on my computer. How do you revive a girl after freazing it like that?
Also, what should I do with this new girl? I have called her and the last time I talked to her was when I met her last Sat.. Have not gotten a response from her, but then again we just met and maybe she feels put off that I didn't call her later last Sat when she didn't return my text mssgs?? I'm at a loss here.
I've been telling myself I was going to call that girl this evening all day, and I didn't because I wasn't feeling confident. I don't have the first girl I put all that energy into, if I see the slutty girl again it will be by coincidence, again, because she didn't give me her number afterwards, and I don't know how to reopen this door with this girl who could very well be a good match, best since my ex 3 years ago, and we could have a blast together. She's soo fucking cute I want to eat her up.. only I want her to want it and like it, not feel weird about it. What should I do, Masters? i gotta make some move by tomorrow, that's a week and the Saturday night is the only anchor i got left on this one. I was thinking of surprising her and calling her late tonight, since she was surprised last time I saw her, but honestly I'm still a bit in the dark about what the NLP stuff actually is and how it works. But also, I'm financially in trouble now, have to make a big decision tomorrow, can play it cool, but i seriously have no money and have had a charity granola bar all day today. I was thinking of going for the same kind of people close, not spending close, but i could risk blowing it all if its not the right moment and she doesn't return anything again.
Please given me any input, anything and all you want to say. I don't care what it is. If you've gotten through this, you truly are a PUA, artist, especially as well, and if I end up taking a big shit on the opportunity to finish this painting beautifully I think I may be sick
Hit me back tonight even cause I'm making the decision whether to call her tonight or not in the next hour
PeeC
ChrisNome
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