Ok, So when thinking through my mission one thing has become clear to

So I have never had a gf in my life,
on the other hand, all girls at one point or another have had a bf, and are, really into, and know and understand, the dynamics of emotion, feelings, and conveyances that come with a real relationship, all the stepping stones, of the whole bf/gf scenario, and have done since they were 15-onward.

I am detached from their world, I am detached from there knowing, and someone, I got to attach myself to it.

hmm interesting post probably why no one replied to it. I don't like seeing posts here with 0 replies since this is an advice forum and a place where we can share stuff so I sorta force myself to reply to stuff with no replies.

I sorta agree with you, but I don't think having a prior relationship is that essential. There are a lot of things that you learn by being in a relationship with someone and you learn about emotions and emotional losses from it. Also relationships allow us to grow and mature and teach us how to grow as people since everytime we date I think we all assimilate some of the better qualities of the person we dated that we valued.

With that said. I think that there are definitly girls 20+ who have never dated. YOu are tlakinga bout good looking girls. Let me put it this way the market right now is as follows:

The top of the food chain is IN THE 15-30 year old range is HOT GIRLS > Good looking / Famous / Socially proofed / Natural Males > AFCs > Girls 6 and under.


See the wya that the social system works is that the guy has to appraoch the girl so hot girls are constantly socially proofed and thus have hte most power. However the guys also have the power since we get to determine who to approach whereas lower 6 and under HBs have minimal social validation and also they cannot in the constricts of todays society approach men so they are usually lost in this wasteland and its very ahrd for them to meet people, Same thing with guys with low self confidence who find it hard to approach girls and just open and spend time with them.

I think you are talking about Hot girls who have this social relationship prior konwledge and again I don't think you are at a loss by not having that. I can tell you I have learned a lot about women from dating but people from this community have done very very well with women without any prior experience by learning the set rules for hwo to deal with women in certain situations and whent o freeze them out and how to keep them chasing them. They use a more algorithmic approach then a natural might use who has experience in realationships but they both cause the same end.

For example I never knew what a neg was until I came here about 2 or so months ago, but I always used to neg. I just called it teasing girls. I knew it always worked from expereince from dating and talking to girls. THe people here haave made a science of it with pre-made negs and such but in essance its the same thing one group has learned this from expereince and the other has learned from reasearch and development (the PUAs).

Also the fact that you have not been in a realtionship is advantagous it means you don't feel you NEED a realtionship. There are two people out there:

Relationship people who are always and have always been in a realtionship since they were very young 15-16ish I would actually agree on that age lol.

And people who are not expereinced in realtionships and most of their interactiosn with women have been flings or 1 night stands or just hooking up with chicks.

The later group the non-relationship people should be more happy by themselves, they ahv elearned to live without a woman and therefore don't feel they NEED someone in their life. They have learned to be single and value their freinds and interactions with them.

I think relationship people value the relationship they are in as their first priority. Not saying they don't have freinds but I'm saying that when left without a relationship they almost feel like what do I do now and then they go looking for a new relationship as quickly as possible to fill a void that they are feeling because they havne't fully developed themselves.

Yes so a relationship woman might be more skilled at understand emotions and hence all women really are man. Think of the different shows we watch. WOmen watch sex and the city, and men watch entourage. THink about those shows one studies relationships whereas entourage sorta touches on relationships and dating issues but really focuses on fun, hot girls and nothing of real depth although entourage is still my favorite show on TV. Thats just 1 of the examples of the difference in breeding between men and women these days though. WOmen read constantly about realtionships in their magazines and love talking about relationships. They move through them quickly (hot girls at least) they ahve lots of options.

Although a LOT changes once you start to hit the higher 20s like 25-28ish. WOmen really begin to lose power in the dating world and men start to take over especially when you hit 30+ its a mans world. If a woman is still single by 25ish society almost tells her something is wrong she should be married whereas men have it easier until even mid 30s as single. I have noticed this more and more while growing up and living int he city and spending time with different people and women.

Also in answer to your question women are older then men maturity wise. In college nad high school its only a few years bu twomen want older men in general not evreyone but most do. Women grow up emotionally faster then men do. i can tell you it was a huge change to go from college tot he real world where I thought constnat alpha male, and outgoing and social and fun party animal was still the desire of all women even ones 22-24 but its not. Once women get out of college that first 1-2 years I am telling you is a transition stage. Some of their freinds will begin to get married and they will begin to look down the long road they still WILL want alpha males outgoing and social and party animal but newer values like clean apartment, nice dressed, good social skills with adults and parents and other things begin to raise in precidence in their mind.

I'm currently 25 years old living in NYC and this is what I have noticed over the last few years of dating and such. I've been in relationships since about 16 yeras old and had 2 when I was in love which dated for 2 years each. I've had a few 6-9 month relationships and lots of time as a single person in between where I learned to be happy being single.

Anyways thats just my opniion on a question that no one will ever know the true answer too and it can be interpretted many many ways.