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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:36 pm 
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Hey guys, I'm totally new to PUAs but i have noticed that alot of the strategy is to get a girl to the point where you can run a K-close on her with a good percentage of her biting (aka: kissing lol). Ok, here's my deal. I'm a virgin who never kisses girls unless THEY initiate it...so whenever it comes time for me to K-close high percentage women I chicken out and make dumb conversation! (this happens frequently)

This is the way it works:

K-Close Spectrum

percentage of a girl accepting a k-close
(0 - 50%) - I act flirty but they don't bite
(51% - 75%) - We flirt for 30 sec to 2 min. I don't close. They move on.
(76% - 90%) - We flirt for 2 - 30 min. I drag flirting on too long. Number close. Have officially reached "friend status". They move on.
(91% - 100%) - Girls kiss me. I am stunned and am not a great kisser. They move on.

So like tonight I just got back from a house party (love those) with lots of HB7 - 9. I consistently get to the point where i have lots of girls attention. Like there was this one climax of the evening where I had 3 girls pretty much tailing me...they weren't sluts but they all came on very strong. Instead of K-closing I start asking them about school blah blah and before I know it that look of super excitement is brushed off their faces. They are just waiting for me to initiate but I don't. They leave thinking I'm a nice guy and not alpha guy (They thought I was alpha at first)


Any recommendations? I know I need to kiss more girls to get over this hump. Any good, easy, cheesy K-closes i can run??? As you can tell I am absolutely CLUELESS and INTIMIDATED in this department. I have many opportunities but less balls than the girls hitting on me! =(
Despite what people say, I do think that a kiss routine might help you get over the hump. What would probably also help is if you got better at reading body language and picking up subtle clues so you feel more confident that it is in the bag.

Naturally these are just training wheels until you gain a bit more confidence in your ability. You should try to move on to a more fluid game as you develop and become more successful.

Honestly, I think what you should do is watch "Keys to the VIP". Great, hilarious show (which you can find entirely on YouTube under the user TigerAFC2PUA) and it shows guys that are really good at their game but are forced into time crunches. Many of them go for kisses but are rejected, but they keep moving forward. You need to remember that just because you got rejected for a kiss doesn't mean that she is not into you, just that it is too early. At least you are presenting as a guy who is not afraid to go for what he wants right? Generally speaking that is a hell of a lot more attractive than pussing out.

One little tip. If you are still having trouble forcing yourself to take the step, try making it a game with one of your buddies of equal or higher skill level than you. Make it a race to see how many girls you can kiss in the night. That way, you will have the "need to close" thought constantly in the back of your mind pushing you forward. A variant that can be added is to give bonus points to the guy who kisses first.

If you still aren't getting pushed in the drive for bragging rights, try putting down money. Give a buddy $20 in a night that you actively expect to make out with a girl and tell him he can keep the money if you don't do it. Naturally he can't disrupt your game. If this doesn't light a fire under your ass, I don't know what will.

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Haha. I know it is pretty easy. You are right.

But
"But?"
No. And stop laughing. This isn't funny. This is about your life.
Get the fuck off your "But" and STAND UP.

You have two choices:
1. Right Action, RIGHT NOW.
2. Being a virgin for the rest of your life and getting your genes unapologetically wiped off the face of the earth.

Pick one NOW.

Also, stop looking for magic lines. Stop looking for the magic pill. Stop looking for the magic bullet. These silly things don't exist. It's all about actually doing the things you are afraid of. Pickup material and routines aren't fucking magic incantations that puts some sort of spell on a girl. The words itself have no inherent value. It's all about what you convey about yourself through them. If you are doubting yourself and fucking scared ball-less while saying ANYTHING, that insecurity is going to shine through. However, if you are actually going to be a fucking man about this, anything you say will "work."
Chief's ideas are correct, although I feel he could have communicated them a little more nicely... Just man up and be confident


The world isn't full of ponies and rainbows kid. We say things like that because if we babied you through it all you wouldn't ever get it. We don't say things like that to be mean to you, just got give you a shove in the right direction. It happens all throughout your life.

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Hey guys, I'm totally new to PUAs but i have noticed that alot of the strategy is to get a girl to the point where you can run a K-close on her with a good percentage of her biting (aka: kissing lol). Ok, here's my deal. I'm a virgin who never kisses girls unless THEY initiate it...so whenever it comes time for me to K-close high percentage women I chicken out and make dumb conversation! (this happens frequently)

This is the way it works:

K-Close Spectrum

percentage of a girl accepting a k-close
(0 - 50%) - I act flirty but they don't bite
(51% - 75%) - We flirt for 30 sec to 2 min. I don't close. They move on.
(76% - 90%) - We flirt for 2 - 30 min. I drag flirting on too long. Number close. Have officially reached "friend status". They move on.
(91% - 100%) - Girls kiss me. I am stunned and am not a great kisser. They move on.

So like tonight I just got back from a house party (love those) with lots of HB7 - 9. I consistently get to the point where i have lots of girls attention. Like there was this one climax of the evening where I had 3 girls pretty much tailing me...they weren't sluts but they all came on very strong. Instead of K-closing I start asking them about school blah blah and before I know it that look of super excitement is brushed off their faces. They are just waiting for me to initiate but I don't. They leave thinking I'm a nice guy and not alpha guy (They thought I was alpha at first)


Any recommendations? I know I need to kiss more girls to get over this hump. Any good, easy, cheesy K-closes i can run??? As you can tell I am absolutely CLUELESS and INTIMIDATED in this department. I have many opportunities but less balls than the girls hitting on me! =(
Despite what people say, I do think that a kiss routine might help you get over the hump. What would probably also help is if you got better at reading body language and picking up subtle clues so you feel more confident that it is in the bag.

Naturally these are just training wheels until you gain a bit more confidence in your ability. You should try to move on to a more fluid game as you develop and become more successful.

Honestly, I think what you should do is watch "Keys to the VIP". Great, hilarious show (which you can find entirely on YouTube under the user TigerAFC2PUA) and it shows guys that are really good at their game but are forced into time crunches. Many of them go for kisses but are rejected, but they keep moving forward. You need to remember that just because you got rejected for a kiss doesn't mean that she is not into you, just that it is too early. At least you are presenting as a guy who is not afraid to go for what he wants right? Generally speaking that is a hell of a lot more attractive than pussing out.

One little tip. If you are still having trouble forcing yourself to take the step, try making it a game with one of your buddies of equal or higher skill level than you. Make it a race to see how many girls you can kiss in the night. That way, you will have the "need to close" thought constantly in the back of your mind pushing you forward. A variant that can be added is to give bonus points to the guy who kisses first.

If you still aren't getting pushed in the drive for bragging rights, try putting down money. Give a buddy $20 in a night that you actively expect to make out with a girl and tell him he can keep the money if you don't do it. Naturally he can't disrupt your game. If this doesn't light a fire under your ass, I don't know what will.
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