I got this issue, when I start a conversation with anyone who I don't know, I seriously find it hard to find things to talk about. Yeah so I might say: 'do ya like the music theyre playing?' or something like that but after that im out of shit to say.

Yah, that's really my problem too. I allways talk about the shit that's happening right now, but after that I have no idea what to talk about, it jsut gets really awkward.

Same thing here, just came back from a night of sarging and a couple of minutes after the openers, the conversations just died.

Hey how we all doing?

Are you guys that boring? No you have lots to talk about talk to them as if they were your regular friends funny events that just happened a movie anything works.

Also if you do not do well with the talking gain inspiration from other areas, use random things out of books tv videos, you tube etcetera.

Anyone can talk its the fact that you put to much emphasis on what your saying. Anything works.

ChowforNow,

the--------------------------------------->Saint

"Whether or not you agree with his harsh, straight to the point mentality, truth be told, he’s the most active/ dedicated / motivating member on this board. He’s routinely getting newbies and current members out sarging, pushing them into sets, given them suggestions and advice, replying to posts more often then anyone else. (Come out Wednesdays and you’ll see what I mean). Also, I have not once heard him making excuses about not going out and pussying out. If anyone else can show me this, I will automatically promote you to any status that you want on this board. (including admin).

Now .. I (and others) .. have tried a more sugar coated / feel good approach to getting guys to come out. Truth be told, it hasn’t worked anywhere close as well. I'm dissappointed that with all the free resources, and the cool guys that we have offering free advice, so few people actually make use of it, go out consistantly, and get better with women, instead of dabbling and keyboard jockeying."

"How did it start?Well, I dont know.I just feel the craving.I see the flesh and it smells fresh.And it's just there for the taking."

"Looking at my own reflection When suddenly it changes Violently it changes Oh no there is no turning back now You've woken up the demon in me"

"Only see, somehow it always seems that I'm learnin' or something I can never be It dosen't matter to me, 'cause I will always be that pimp I see
in all my fantasies I don't know your fucking name.So what?
Let's.fuck"

"Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind

Just use the 'way of the Ninja'. It's simple: constantly be aware of everything that is happening in your vicinity and make use of it!

I personally never use standard openers, but instead scan the target or my own surroundings for good topics.

The music opener isn't even that bad as you think. Just try to get more depth in it, like discussing the specific artist/song. Once you get into music genre, the conversation is already flowing, innit?

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Back, starting over as of 2012.

Not everybody has the gift of gab, but I believe to an extent it can be learned and adopted.

First off, learn to tell a good story. Call to mind as many funny anecdotes from your life and your friends' lives as you can. If you need to, write them down to keep them all straight and remember them. If you need to take that one step further, write them out word for word the way you'd want to tell them to someone else, and edit and rehearse until it looks and sounds natural and has maximum impact.

But my main advice would be to just talk to people whenever humanly possible. I'm a very good conversationalist but I kind of despise small talk; it makes me very nervous because I obsess internally over whether it's going to become awkward, and I spend the entirety of it trying to figure out a way to gracefully end it when the time comes. But, I get through it nicely and the stress doesn't show. I used to crumple up when talking to almost anyone I wasn't very familiar with...I had to just start practicing conversation by talking to anyone, anytime I could. Strangers, whomever. Build experience, increase comfort, discover ease. It helps, it really does. And since most of the people you'll talk to will be strangers, if it doesn't end smoothly or something goes awkward or wrong, you won't have to kick yourself because you don't know the person and won't see them again; it's just experience, and when you walk away you can analyze it and think about what you did right and wrong and use that for next time.

Just talk. Don't think about it. TALK. If you want to get girls, you're gonna have to be interesting. And to get on the path to that, you're gonna have to be able to sustain conversation. Don't think about it. Just do it.

To my age group im boring, Im kind of mature for my age (16) and people in my age group bore me shitless. I prefer talking about more intelligent things than lame borat jokes and other shit like that.

Ahh....that's the same problem I had at that age. Seems like forever ago but wasn't very long ago at all. For the most part I had to wait several years until other people grew into my level of maturity, but hopefully someone more experienced will have better advice that can help more immediately.

What's wrong with Borat ?

I've been through the same shit when I was younger, but recently I've had to teach in front of classes and actually FORCE myself to turn boring stuff (HTML, New Media, Videogames) into something INTERESTING. If I didn't, how the hell could I teach those kids anything???

Passion, enthousiasm and some persuasive skills can make people see the interesting side of the most boring things in the world. Talking about Chess? Explain it can teach you all the basic elements of War such as patience, cunning and reading your opponent's moves.

Conversation is something you can only improve by going out and doing it! Subjects don't matter, it's the way your present it!

Great point--which reminds me of a personal goal I'd forgotten that I can also recommend to you. Read Sun Tzu's The Art of War. It was written to aid leaders in battle, yes, but it has also been applied to business with incredible effectiveness (and let's not forget Tony Soprano used it to great benefit with his crew as well), but I know more than enough about it to know that it can be applied to social situations too, especially when it comes to dealing with the opposite sex.