Last night I went out to the club and opened a two set HB 7.5 (a married guy came in later trying to cockblock, but that's a different story). The opening went well but in a short period of time the interaction became 'interview style'. Then I started to feel the 'why is he still talking to us feeling'. I have a difficult time keeping the conversation interesting and going after a decent opener.

The thing is that when I talk to a girl who is a 0-4 this is not a problem. Things flow better and I seem to had more 'leeway.' of course this probably because they are just happy a guy is trying to game them. But when I use the same game on HB 7-10+ I keep getting stuck. I'm naturally introverted and new to PUA so for me it is difficult to hold a convo with a very very hot girl and I usually wind up getting too nervous in and panic the eject.

Then I wind up pulling the:

'Hey someone is calling me I'll be right back'
'Hey I'm gonna hit the boys room, be right back'
Etc....

As an eject to save face.


Any suggestions ?

Loosen up a bit. That's what the clubs are for.

I can guarantee almost everybody there isn't preoccupied with what to say/when to say. They're just looking for a good time.

You can't expect much out of a less serious environment. "Attraction comes and goes as quickly as the door swings in/out with hoes."

I would go there just to practice, and take whatever happens with a grain of salt.

Regardless of what happens, by the end of the night you've already +1'd yourself with experience.

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some stuff I would do:

I have a routine stack of 6 routines and 2 cool stories.

e.g.:

- Style Cube
- Style EV
- Style 5 question game
- 2 cool stories

further: Best Friends test, guessing a number from 1-4 or 1-10, ...

It helps when I run out of interesting things to say. Then I just do a routine.
Cube and Style EV get very good results in Field.

Then I focus on girls where I can get somewhere. So if HB7+ is a problem I would focus on HG6.

I also focus on the process of getting better more then on the results. I try to constantly work on different sticking points I have.

Hey thanks for the info. Im not sure what style EV or cube EV is though. I'm still new to this. In the past I used to let it roll naturally off of boring atypical shit like job, hobbies, etc which was pretty uneventful to say the least.


So asking weird questions, negging, etc I'm stil trying to get the hang of.

Here are the links to the routines:

1) cube
the-cube-vt1509.html

2) style EV
anyone-know-styles-ev-routine-vt13033.html

3) 5 lies game
5-lies-game-by-style-vt6090.html

4) Best Friends test
the-best-friends-test-vt78094.html

The first two routines (cube / style EV) get very good results.

It is important to listen for trance words (e.g. while doing the style EV). So for instance one girl said "exiting moments with friends". Here 'exiting' and 'moments' are trance words and they have a special meaning for the girl. It is important to repeat those words to the girl, and maybe repeat a gesture the girl is doing while she is saying the words. Like 'imagine you have the perfect exiting moments with friends....", etc.

Two links on trance words:
trance-words-vt94910.html
the-most-powerful-trance-word-vt35721.html