hey every one just a little back story. i first met this sensational HB10 when i was 14 and ofcourse i was a massive AFC as youd expect. hell id never even kissed a girl i think . i fell pretty heavily for her and that only further reinforced my afc nature and took me deeper into the friend zone.

anyway weve also had a playfull almost flirty relationship and shes even told me in the past that she fancied me. enter AFC smooth with the classic " thank you ...." , looking back on it now i just crack up hahaha.

about a year ago i went to her house party ( i had recently read some david deangelo ) and i busted on her constantly, teased her about her house and just made her laugh but not in a clowny way lol. now here comes the bad part at the end of the night there was an awkward multiple peck on the lips good bye. i shouldve grabbed her there and then and led her upstairs whilst the rest of the party listened to her moan but hey , you live you learn lol ......... instead i left .

shortly after this she got herself a boy friend and i got myself a girl friend so our relationship is now more well talk once a fortnight but still share everything with each other ( on her part , im trying to be more " mysterious " )

there are so many more times that ive fucked up with her that id be here all night if i was to include them so ill cut to the chase.

i want her, not because of oneitis or anything like that but because in my opinion , although i reguarly get # closes and k closes ( still searching for that elusive fuck close lol ) this would be a massive confidence boost and proof to myself that i have improved.

shes coming over next monday for a film , chinese and to get through a 6 pack of bud ( what a girl haha ) and id like some advice. i was thinking building up kino , sexual tension and go down 60's path ? what do you guys think ?

so thats it 5 years in the friend zone , got a boy friend and ive failed many a test.

impossible ?

let the games begin

any advice is appreciated and sorry for the length .

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Seize the day

your climbing out of the friend zone it seems. If she coming over for take out and beer with just you and this isn't a normal thing, I would make a move. Do something she doesn't expect.

Reguardless. Throw out a sexual commit now and then but not to often. Make her think about sex with you, but don't go overboard and become make yourself out to be a pervert. If she returns something sexual; make sure you look at her like she kicked a puppy and then look as though you thought about it and it may not be so bad.

Tell her "the plan is working, somewhat. Togeather we may be able to get our boyfriend and girlfriend togeather, but you have a lot of work to do before you can reel me in."

Maybe tell her you need to find a better girl friend, one thats not stuck on looks and actually has something to offer. Then say "Look, I've known you for years and I'm still not sure you would really be great girlfriend material for someone like me. What makes you different from all the other pretty faces that would make I guy fall for you." * get her to demonstrait valve. If you can get her to reply and name things (even if you already know them) she is giving an IOI to make closing easier for you.

At the end of the night, tell her goodbye and if you don't feel comfortable kiss closing, go with the hug or whatever and then say "Now that's not how you would say goodbye to your boyfriend."

She will either kiss you or give you the OK
She say "your not my boyfriend" or something negitive, tell her "I figured I would give you chance to pretend a good looking cool guy was your boyfriend for once. Chance over, maybe one day you'll get it right."

GFTOW

1. Turn the conversation sexual, and then judge her negatively if she says something sexual back? That's returning a massive IOD to her IOI. Punishing her for continuing to talk about sex. Not smart.

2. "The plan" is working? Creepy

3. "Tell me what makes you a good girlfriend" = too obvious a qualification question.

4. "I figured I would give you chance to pretend a good looking cool guy was your boyfriend for once. Chance over, maybe one day you'll get it right."

OMG AWFUL! DO NOT DO!

Basic steps for trying to get out of the friend zone:
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