Hey guys, James here

So I've been gaming this girl for a couple of weeks, same age as me. I've used Carlos Xuma's Bad Boy Formula to transform my inner game and I find it's working really well. I use C+F and usually create sexual tension. I think there's a good chance she is attracted to me but here's where the complicated part comes in.

She has a boyfriend who is a goody-two-shoes type guy. Not alpha at all, very beta with a bland personality. Now, he is nothing like a "bad boy" and is even less of an "alpha man" but she has failed to break up with him. It's been publicly shown that he is a jerk (constantly questioning her about JUST SPEAKING to other guys aka me - that shows some pretty shaky loyalty if you ask me). They are constantly on-and-off.

His behaviour isn't bad boy, or alpha, yet he is a jerk and manages to keep her.
They haven't sexually escalated further than making out. Her friends also agree that he is a jerk and I would be a lot better. I'm aiming for a relationship here. Another interesting piece of information is that me, the girl and the jerk-BF all have the same social deficit disorder.

Any advice on what I can do/if you've had a similar experience?
If you need any more information, I'll happily tell you, this is just a basic summary

J. Fang

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Have you encountered this guy face to face or has she just complained about him?

I mean a similar situation I had was a friend of mine was with the wrong person but when I tried to CONVINCE him she was wrong for him(my way older AFC days) he went the opposite way and went closer to her. I think that you are on the right track and their road will eventually come to an end.

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Yeah, I've encountered him face to face plenty of times.
Matter of fact, he has been a good friend of mine for a year!

Like I said, very beta-male. Very AFC.
As a matter of fact, he actually used pity to get into a relationship with her. Went off by himself, started sulking and BAM! He gets the girl. LOLWUT. Carlos Xuma taught me that the pity angle never works and should never be used. Very beta.

He even used to give off a creepy, stalker-ish vibe about him when we went to parties/social gatherings. Very odd. (Yes, this dude used to be a stalker!)

Convincing is definitely not a good idea, and as you suggested, I will NEVER use logic to try and game her.

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Anyone got any idea on how to progress with this?

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I would say keep doing what you're doing and possibly, throw in a jealousy plot line. I mean who are you? You're friggin James Fang! You are a social person! So when you all go out, mingle with other ladies/people in general and give her less attention. Jealousy stems from the fear of loss, so she's going to lose attention from you and it'll solidify itself right there: She wants to win you over. She wants you over her AFC BF. I hope this advice helps man. Not much of a believer of luck so...Best of success!

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Am I supposed to remain celibate while I bask in like the warm glow of your annihilating contempt?
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[quote="James Fang"]Yeah, I've encountered him face to face plenty of times.
Matter of fact, he has been a good friend of mine for a year!

Like I said, very beta-male. Very AFC.
As a matter of fact, he actually used pity to get into a relationship with her. Went off by himself, started sulking and BAM! He gets the girl. LOLWUT. Carlos Xuma taught me that the pity angle never works and should never be used. Very beta.

He even used to give off a creepy, stalker-ish vibe about him when we went to parties/social gatherings. Very odd. (Yes, this dude used to be a stalker!)

Convincing is definitely not a good idea, and as you suggested, I will NEVER use logic to try and game her.[/quote]

I don't understand, why are you trying to steal a girl from you friend? Surely you don't want to treat your friends like that... I also don't get how you can call him your friend if you seem to have such contempt for him - I'm scared as to how you think of your acquaintances.

Standard gaming logic dictates the best strategy for you to pursue would be finding the things she lacks in her relationship with this guy and then being the one who can provide them. e.g.:

'It's weird that he's so jealous of you talking to other guys. I don't know. Maybe he just suspicious because he realises that you're way out of his league and he's holding onto you because he's never going to get a girl as good'

Well it appears to me that he didn't mean good friends in that way, the situation, from what I understand is that they are acquaintances. I mean I go out and meet lots of people, guys and girls so I know a lot of people out there but that doesn't mean that I'll keep away from a girl because I happened to have met their BF especially when she's in a detrimental relationship like that.

I'm pretty sure you aren't friends with him because associating with a guy like him would bring you down and lower your social value. I have met a lot of guys like that and I'm cool with them and say Hi but I wouldn't call them up to chill or invite them out, you know.

I do agree that you should figure out what she is missing and provide it but be careful with what you say. Try and be positive about it. Sometimes if you talk badly about a person it might come off as try hard and with a negative vibe.

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Am I supposed to remain celibate while I bask in like the warm glow of your annihilating contempt?
-Dex, The Tao of Steve

You've nailed it Savior I wouldn't invite him out anywhere, risking lowering my social value, but if he does happen to speak to me, I'll be civil. No need to cause s**t. Basically, I'm liking your jealousy idea

Though, there's been a development. She claimed to me that she's going to break up with him on Thursday. Tbh, I doubt this. Regardless, it doesn't change too much.

Any other tips on how to attract her even further?

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