I basically have a problem by having a few friends mostly ranging from HB7-9. These girls are great, but my problem is that i am in a friend zone... and i really want to get out of it? what are some good ways to get out of the friend zone?

these girls are pretty outgoing, and i feel like they may be pretty easy to seal the deal with.

i just want out of the friend only zone

re invent yourself so that the YOU that they are friends with is dead---avoid them 4 bout a week come back with a new hair style,new way of dressing and new outlook,new interests---no need to go totally over the top

Herne is kind of right. You dont need to completely reinvent yourself over the top. Just enough for the girls to realize "Ohhhh this guy became a lot more interesting than before.. i kinda like it"

It also kind of depends on how long youre friends with them for

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"...so it goes"

well i just recently began talking to some older friends again, and i've been mostly negging them and at times funny.
i've noticed that they want to hang out more with me right now, and i dont know if its just friends situation or if its another chance to hook up possibly.

if it is the right time to make my move, how do i know or what can i do so that i dont get rejected????

It's very difficult. Women don't like bragging. So no disrespect to the other posters, just a bit of perspective. Keep in mind that though my statements appear definitive, they are just opinions.

If you totally re-invent yourself a woman is likely to think this is some sort of bragging. I think you have 2 real options. It depends on how long you've been in friend mode with this girl. If it's been more than 6 months, I think you have to forget it. Her interest level simply isn't there. Now, if you haven't torpedoed yourself and told her you like her more than friends and been rejected..you might have something to work with. Women love to feel they are in control. So you should go and date another woman. Be seen with other women when with her or where she can see it. She may start to see you in a different way cause you'll have become a challenge and all of a sudden she'll think of you in a different way. We all want what we can't have. Once she feels she's losing control of her power over you, she may try to reel you back in. I say you should tell her you're busy and going on a date. When she starts acting instead of reacting to go out with you, tell her you'll hang out or something non committed. Then do what you needed to in the first place and build attraction. It will be a long hard road, but if you really think she's the one for you and you know she has a great attitude, why not try to salvage it the hard way. I'm kind of going through the same thing. Good luck.

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-Thirteen's got my lucky number

Not going to lie to you you've got a high chance of getting rejected because you waited so long but who cares.
Why is rejection so bad at least you'll know where you stand without wasting any more of your time next time you've got her alone try to kiss her.
Her opinions been formed of you long ago you'll be wasting more time by trying to "reinvent yourself" over the course of weeks, by then she may have found someone else. Just go for it

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The friend zone or the friendship que as i refer to it.

This one to me is a knife edge. You have to restart. Restart by shocking her. Tell her how you feel. Tell her that you believe after you got to know her that you and her might have a good shot and that if she doesn't feel the same way, then you two are obviously just not meant to be which you are ok with. And then, even if you have to pretend, disarm the awkward situation, not immediately but after a few days, by moving on and talking to her about other girls that you are interested in. She should start comparing herself to those girls.

The most important thing is to not let it show that you are at all affected or phased by her lack of interest in you.

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Honestly just have a bunch of cocktails together. If things develop through regular gaming than follow through. Sometimes alcohol has a way of loosening people up, I am not saying to get her drunk. That is not my statement, but I am saying to have a couple drinks because people state their objections when they are more comfortable together.

Do not blow out all your feelings for her/them thats just not gonna cut it, these girls prolly already kno u want them prolly why you became friends with them in the first place, girls can usually tell these things.
1.First take a break from them and dont see them for a while,
2.dating another will help your value as long as she is close to as attractive as them.
3. U do not need a new look but if you want to go for it. U just need to comeback with a new improved frame full of self with some natural game, they'll prolly see through most canned since they know u so well, get some C&F and just dominate them, bceome the leader
4. Lay off on being their friend in an emotional way, you are not their shoulder to cry on, your a man. You are not the peron they tell their boy problems to.